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I don't see point in snooping anymore. We have been separated 6 weeks. No one is going to care about the ethics of her dating / sleeping with someone now. You never have seen any point in snooping. The point in snooping is to gather the necessary intelligence to enable an effective marriage recovery effort. There's going to be two ex-wives that I'll carry love for around inside me. That's because you are not following the MB plan. If you work through the full plan and it doesn't result in recovering your marriage, what it will result in is the loss of any residual love for the wayward spouse. People who follow the plan either recover their marriages or they recover themselves. You are choosing to do neither. I have enough evidence to show there was a mental plan in my wifes head to leave me and see if she could start a relationship with him. There is not enough evidence to prove there was a physical relationship or one that emotionally crossed a significant enough boundry that exposing would bring about any positive change in the recovery of our relaotionship. She has been neglected by me, and associates me with unhappiness. Her true unhappiness comes from her own lack of spiritual / inner contentment with her place in our life. She has chosen to eliminate me and look for a better, probably mor financially successful, partner. So, no, I don't see any more point in "snooping" because it won't result in the discovery of a full blown affair before she left me. Pretty simple really.
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I just hope she decides to make a fair settlement arrangement without having to resort to a costly, and lengthy, dispute. How complicated could be a divorce settlement for 3 month marriage with no kids? Why would you expect it to be long and costly? Also I've read somewhere that you need to be separated for 12 months before you can file for divorce in Australia... Is that correct? Technically we are not "married". I suggested, and we decided, to have a commitment ceremony to show respect for same sex couples in australia that are refused the right to marry. So technically we can get settlement straight away. But, she is refusing to negotiate directly with me and is using a solicitor. Her "offers" have been insultingly below what I am legally entitled to. All she would have to do is make an offer close to what I would be entitled to and I would accept it. But she is choosing to drag it out through legal channels.
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Technically we are not "married". I suggested, and we decided, to have a commitment ceremony to show respect for same sex couples in australia that are refused the right to marry.
So technically we can get settlement straight away. But, she is refusing to negotiate directly with me and is using a solicitor. Her "offers" have been insultingly below what I am legally entitled to. All she would have to do is make an offer close to what I would be entitled to and I would accept it. But she is choosing to drag it out through legal channels. You choose to tell us now that "technically" you are not married? If you are not married "technically", in what way ARE you married? What other way is there?
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posted on 7-7-2015 WE have been living together for 6 years, and we were married 3 months ago So actually you lied to us.
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Technically we are not "married". I suggested, and we decided, to have a commitment ceremony to show respect for same sex couples in australia that are refused the right to marry.
So technically we can get settlement straight away. But, she is refusing to negotiate directly with me and is using a solicitor. Her "offers" have been insultingly below what I am legally entitled to. All she would have to do is make an offer close to what I would be entitled to and I would accept it. But she is choosing to drag it out through legal channels. You choose to tell us now that "technically" you are not married? If you are not married "technically", in what way ARE you married? What other way is there? I explained it above pretty clearly. In australia, Gay and lesbians don't have the right to get "married" they have commitment ceremonies. I have a strong political view against this and I have homosexual family members that could not get "married" so we decided our ceremony would be a commitment ceremony. Legally it makes no difference to our financial rights or to wills etc. It just means there doesn't need to be a legal divorce.
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posted on 7-7-2015 WE have been living together for 6 years, and we were married 3 months ago So actually you lied to us. No, it's semantics
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Thank you for finally telling the truth. All this time I thought you were married. I'm sorry I wasted my time on this thread.
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I explained it above pretty clearly. In australia, Gay and lesbians don't have the right to get "married" they have commitment ceremonies. I have a strong political view against this and I have homosexual family members that could not get "married" so we decided our ceremony would be a commitment ceremony. Legally it makes no difference to our financial rights or to wills etc. It just means there doesn't need to be a legal divorce. You chose not to get married because gay people can't get married? Well, fair enough, but I don't know why you told us you are married if you are not.
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Thank you for finally telling the truth. All this time I thought you were married. I'm sorry I wasted my time on this thread. **EDIT** It's the same thing. What difference does it make to how the relationship is treated. It was just the ritual we chose to represent our commitment to each other. Makes no difference just because we signed a different form.
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I explained it above pretty clearly. In australia, Gay and lesbians don't have the right to get "married" they have commitment ceremonies. I have a strong political view against this and I have homosexual family members that could not get "married" so we decided our ceremony would be a commitment ceremony. Legally it makes no difference to our financial rights or to wills etc. It just means there doesn't need to be a legal divorce. You chose not to get married because gay people can't get married? Well, fair enough, but I don't know why you told us you are married if you are not. Because it means the same thing - except for the requirement to get a legal divorce. In the eyes of the law and community it;s the same as a marriage.
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Thank you for finally telling the truth. All this time I thought you were married. I'm sorry I wasted my time on this thread. **EDIT** It's the same thing. What difference does it make to how the relationship is treated. It was just the ritual we chose to represent our commitment to each other. Makes no difference just because we signed a different form. The situation you are in represents your commitment to each other. It's not the commitment of a marriage.
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Thank you for finally telling the truth. All this time I thought you were married. I'm sorry I wasted my time on this thread. **EDIT** It's the same thing. What difference does it make to how the relationship is treated. It was just the ritual we chose to represent our commitment to each other. Makes no difference just because we signed a different form. The situation you are in represents your commitment to each other. It's not the commitment of a marriage. No it's the same thing
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[Because it means the same thing - except for the requirement to get a legal divorce. In the eyes of the law and community it;s the same as a marriage. If it's the same as marriage, why the need to protest?
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[Because it means the same thing - except for the requirement to get a legal divorce. In the eyes of the law and community it;s the same as a marriage. If it's the same as marriage, why the need to protest? Because people are calling me a liar and insinuating the situation would be different if we signed a different piece of paper. It was called a marriage. She wore a wedding dress and we were pronounced man an wife in front of our family and friends. I find it extremely insulting to have people here call me a liar.
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I find it extremely insulting to have people here call me a liar. Sorry - I meant - why the need to protest about gay people not having the right to marry, if a commitment ceremony is the same as marriage in the eyes of the law and the community. Why protest by having a commitment ceremony instead of a marriage ceremony?
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posted on 7-7-2015 WE have been living together for 6 years, and we were married 3 months ago So actually you lied to us. No, it's semantics Like I said, you lied.
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I find it extremely insulting to have people here call me a liar. I am extremely offended that you lied to many people here - and Dr Harley - about your relationship.
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I find it extremely insulting to have people here call me a liar. Sorry - I meant - why the need to protest about gay people not having the right to marry, if a commitment ceremony is the same as marriage in the eyes of the law and the community. Why protest by having a commitment ceremony instead of a marriage ceremony? Out of respect
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I find it extremely insulting to have people here call me a liar. I am extremely offended that you lied to many people here - and Dr Harley - about your relationship. How did i lie. Either its the same as marriage for the purposes of determining the status of our relationship or it's not. As far as I, my wife, and anybody else that has half a brain it's the same thing and the term "married" refers to both. If you want to maintain some religiously sanctimonious reverence for "married" only being one particular thing and only that has any true significance that is your view and choice. But you are wrong and have no justification in calling me a liar.
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