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Her anger tells me everything I need to know about wether or not she is cheating. An exhausted non-cheater would not be blowing up mad over my responses.

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Her - But this isn't just about (daughter). She will grow up and move out some day. And we will be left with each other. You sound like a broken record. I have no reason to believe anything that you are saying to me because we have been here so many times. You are manipulating this and turning it around on me. It's not gonna happen.

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Originally Posted by Winslow
Her anger tells me everything I need to know about wether or not she is cheating. An exhausted non-cheater would not be blowing up mad over my responses.

Yes, the anger comes from the fact that you are interfering with a powerful fantasy. That fantasy is an affair, I assure you. You can burst that fantasy if you get evidence of the affair. This is why we are pushing you so hard to get evidence.


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Her anger tells me everything I need to know about wether or not she is cheating. An exhausted non-cheater would not be blowing up mad over my responses.

Yes, the anger comes from the fact that you are interfering with a powerful fantasy. That fantasy is an affair, I assure you. You can burst that fantasy if you get evidence of the affair. This is why we are pushing you so hard to get evidence.

There is no evidence! I am doing everything suggested to get evidence and finding nothong

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What do i say to her last reply?

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So, I would just stop texting and when she comes home today, be as pleasant as possible. If she tries to force you out, just let her know you have no reason to go anywhere and will not move out. She asked you to move out until she could move out, and you should not do that. Be firm and don't cooperate with any marriage wrecking ideas.

And DON'T let her bait you into a fight. She will try very hard to bait you into a fight. Don't let her succeed.


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Originally Posted by Winslow
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Her anger tells me everything I need to know about wether or not she is cheating. An exhausted non-cheater would not be blowing up mad over my responses.

Yes, the anger comes from the fact that you are interfering with a powerful fantasy. That fantasy is an affair, I assure you. You can burst that fantasy if you get evidence of the affair. This is why we are pushing you so hard to get evidence.

There is no evidence! I am doing everything suggested to get evidence and finding nothong

Keep trying. You will get it.


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Me - Im owning my mistakes. Taking responsibility for the damage i have caused. And i am standing up for our marriage. I understand you are upset and in sorry. I dont want you to leave.

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Listen, you are doing GREAT. This is a very tough, volatile situation to manage, but if you have the ability to put aside your emotions and follow a plan, you can make it. You seem to be able to do that, so hang in there and don't let her get you down.

I saw you reading wifedivorcing's thread last night. That was one of the worst cases we have ever had, but you will see how he was able to take action and ended up saving his marriage. You actually have a better chance than him because you have a child together. There are no guarantees, but you have a good chance at saving this.


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Your help and support means more to me than u will ever know. Thanks for the fast replies

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Originally Posted by Winslow
Your help and support means more to me than u will ever know. Thanks for the fast replies

You are very welcome. I am happy to help someone who can follow a plan! awesome


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Im literally shredded inside and doing everything in my power to keep a straight face and a calm demeanor. I can say with all honesty that this hurts worse than facing the death of a loved one.

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Originally Posted by Winslow
Im literally shredded inside and doing everything in my power to keep a straight face and a calm demeanor. I can say with all honesty that this hurts worse than facing the death of a loved one.

We understand completely. Just know it won't always be like this.


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Should i avoid her tonight? Or is she gonna do that for me? Also what if she leaves and tries to take our daughter?

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Originally Posted by Winslow
Should i avoid her tonight? Or is she gonna do that for me? Also what if she leaves and tries to take our daughter?

Don't avoid her. She will probably be angry at you and then will avoid you. Just be calm, polite and don't argue with her. She will try to bait you into a fight and bully you into moving out. Don't fall for it. Be calm but FIRM and do not agree to move out. Even if she calls the police on you, do not leave. You cannot be forced from your home without a court order.

I would ask her to leave your DD with you if she tries to take her, but there is not much you can do if she wants to take your daughter. If she HIDES your DD from you, then you will have to hire an attorney. If she does that, it will be a HUGE legal mistake because that infuriates judges. We had one mother who took her two kids and left town with them. The judge was so angry that he made her go home and pack her things, move out and hand the kids over to the dad. He gave him full custody!

She may try packing and taking the DD as a ploy to get you to move out. Don't fall for it.


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Also, keep your phone in your pocket with the recorder turned on when you speak to her. If she makes a false claim against you to the police you will have a recording.


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So whats my next move here. I have a feeling she is going to bury this affair to thr point we may never get hard evidence. How can i proceed from here IF that happens?

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She just text me "what am i supposed to do?"

Me- i dont want to make decisions for you. I dont want you to go, and I love you

Her - But why don't you want me to go? Aside from (DD)? I just don't understand how you could do the things that you did and then all of the sudden change your mind. I don't trust you. I don't even like you right now.

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Me - I understand you are upset and hurt. I understand I contributed to most of it. I love you and I want to be a better man. I have learned the price of my selfishness is something I cant afford to pay. I want to be a loving and supportive husband to you.

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Originally Posted by Winslow
So whats my next move here. I have a feeling she is going to bury this affair to thr point we may never get hard evidence. How can i proceed from here IF that happens?

Just keep snooping until you get the evidence. Cheaters are always sloppy because they are addicted. In fact, she is probably running to the OM today to cry on his shoulder since you ruined her plans.


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