This is an e-mail sent to me by my mother. It is a transcript of a speach made during one of the recent "Rally's for America". It is not a pro-war speach, nor was it a pro-war demonstration. It was a demonstration supporting our country, and more importantly, supporting the brave men and women who sacrifice(d) thier lives to ensure our freedom. I know this is a forum for saving marraiges, but this short, simple, but powerful speech really touched me and I am sharing it with all my friends, including the MB ones <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> . I hope no one is offended by this post, like I said, this speech really hit home with me.

Following is a copy of Mrs. Chapman's speech, which resulted in five

> > standing ovations, tremendous applause and an encore. It's a short read

> > and well worth it.

> >

> > Stand Up for America Rally Speech

> > By: Beth Chapman

> >

> > I'm here tonight because men and women of the United States military

> > have given their lives for my freedom. I am not here tonight because

> > Sheryl Crowe, Rosie O'Donnell, Martin Sheen, George Clooney, Jane Fonda

> > or Phil Donahue, sacrificed their lives for me.

> >

> > If my memory serves me correctly, it was not movie stars or musicians,

> > but the United States Military who fought on the shores of Iwo Jima, the

> > jungles of Vietnam, and the beaches of Normandy. Tonight, I say we

> > should support the President of the United States and the U.S. Military

> > and tell the liberal, tree-hugging, Birkenstock-wearing, hippy, tie-dyed

> > liberals to go make their movies and music and whine somewhere else.

> >

> > After all, if they lived in Iraq, they wouldn't be allowed the freedom

> > of speech they're being given here today. Ironically, they would be put

> > to death at the hands of Sadam Husssein or Osama Bin Laden. I want to

> > know how the very people who are against war because of the loss of

> > life, can possibly be the same people who are for abortion? They are the

> > same people who are for animal rights but against the rights of the

> > unborn. The movie stars say they want to go to Iraq and serve as "human

> > shields" for the Iraqis. I say let them buy a one-way ticket and go.

> >

> > No one likes war. I hate war! But the one thing I hate more is the fact

> > that this country has been forced into war-innocent people have lost

> > their lives - - and there but for the grace of God, it could have been

> > my brother, my husband, or even worse my own son.

> >

> > On December 7, 1941, there are no records of movie stars treading the

> > blazing waters of Pearl Harbor.

> >

> > On September 11, 2001; there are no photos of movie stars standing as

> > "human shields" against the debris and falling bodies ascending from the

> > WorldTrade Center. There were only policemen and firemen - -underpaid

> > civil servants who gave their all with nothing expected in return.

> >

> > When the USS Cole was bombed, there were no movie stars guarding the

> > ship - - where were the human shields then?

> >

> > If America's movie stars want to be human shields, let them shield the

> > gang-ridden streets of Los Angeles, or New York City, let them shield

> > the lives of the children of North Birmingham whose mothers lay them

> > down to sleep on the floor each night to shelter them from stray

>bullets.

> >

> > If they want to be human shields, I say let them shield the men and

> > women of honesty and integrity that epitomizes courage and embody the

> > spirit of freedom by wearing the proud uniforms of the United States

> > Military. Those are the people who have earned and deserve shielding!

> >

> > Throughout the course of history, this country has remained free, not

> > because of movie stars and liberal activists, but because of brave men

> > and women who hated war too. However, they lay down their lives so that

> > we all may live in freedom. After all - "What greater love hath no man,

> > that he lay down his life for his friend," or in this case a country.

> >

> > We should give our military honor and acknowledgement and not let their

> > lives be in vain. If you want to see true human shields, walk through

> > Arlington Cemetery. There lie human shields, heroes, and the BRAVE

> > Americans who didn't get on television and talk about being a human

> > shield - they were human shields.

> >

> > I thank God tonight for freedom - - those who bought and paid for it

> > with their lives in the past - - those who will protect it in the

> > present and defend it in the future.

> >

> > America has remained silent too long! God-fearing people have remained

> > silent too long!

> >

> > We must lift our voices united in a humble prayer to God for guidance

> > and the strength and courage to sustain us throughout whatever the

> > future may hold.

> >

> > After the tragic events of Sept. 11th, my then eleven -year-old son said

> > terrorism is a war against them and us and if you're not one of us, then

> > you're one of them.

> >

> > So in closing tonight, let us be of one accord, let us stand proud, and

> > let us be the human shields of prayer, encouragement and support for the

> > President, our troops and their families and our country.

> >

> > May God bless America, the land of the free, the home of the brave and

> > the greatest country on the face of this earth!

> >

> >

Great speech! Thanks for posting it! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Did you hear on the news tonight that Iraqi soldiers are already trying to surrender on the Kuwaiti border to the British? lol The British told them the war hasn't started yet so they can't surrender but they offered to let them defect. They did. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

^^

This is MHO, so if you don't agree, I'm sorry. Diplomacy failed after 12 years of lies and put-offs by Saddam. Why he isn't being held accountable for that by many in our society is beyond me. I didn't vote for Bush, but I think he's handled things very well in the wake of 9/11.
NO ONE wanted a war, except Saddam. I think he'll learn the meaning of 'Be careful what you ask for'.

While it's everyone's right to speak their minds, I resent the insinuation by some people in show business that they speak for everyone, or have some sort of divine insight. They live in Neverland, enjoy all the benefits of the public forum and then scorn those who have paid with their lives for the freedoms they invoke. They are only mannequins trying to grasp whatever bit of limelight they can while reading their scripts, and flatter themselves that they hold sway among people of power. They are so blinded by their own reflections in the mirror they cannot see how foolish they are. I'm all for letting them be human sheilds. Gosh, I'll buy them a one way ticket. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Remember when they all said they'd leave the country if Bush was elected? News Flash- they're all still here! They're a bunch of blow hard hypocrites who can't get a real job, so they have sex with the right people and make movies instead. Why they get a bunch of media coverage saying things no one wants to hear is beyond me. I just hit the 'off' button.

No matter what side of this issue you are on, this is happening and we need to pray. Prayers go out for *everyone* involved in this on both sides (especially for wisdom and guidance for the leaders), and that every one of our military troops will make it home safely to their loved ones.

Blessings!

This is MHO, so if you don't agree, I'm sorry. Diplomacy failed after 12 years of lies and put-offs by Saddam. Why he isn't being held accountable for that by many in our society is beyond me. I didn't vote for Bush, but I think he's handled things very well in the wake of 9/11.
NO ONE wanted a war, except Saddam. I think he'll learn the meaning of 'Be careful what you ask for'.

While it's everyone's right to speak their minds, I resent the insinuation by some people in show business that they speak for everyone, or have some sort of divine insight. They live in Neverland, enjoy all the benefits of the public forum and then scorn those who have paid with their lives for the freedoms they invoke. They are only mannequins trying to grasp whatever bit of limelight they can while reading their scripts, and flatter themselves that they hold sway among people of power. They are so blinded by their own reflections in the mirror they cannot see how foolish they are. I'm all for letting them be human sheilds. Gosh, I'll buy them a one way ticket. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Remember when they all said they'd leave the country if Bush was elected? News Flash- they're all still here! They're a bunch of blow hard hypocrites who can't get a real job, so they have sex with the right people and make movies instead. Why they get a bunch of media coverage saying things no one wants to hear is beyond me. I just hit the 'off' button.

No matter what side of this issue you are on, this is happening and we need to pray. Prayers go out for *everyone* involved in this on both sides (especially for wisdom and guidance for the leaders), and that every one of our military troops will make it home safely to their loved ones.

Blessings!

Good points, EJosef! Here is an article that you might find interesting about those mouthy "celebrities":

Who's Smarter?
by Cindy Osborne

The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone and everyone who will listen. They publicly defile them and call them names like "stupid" , "morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.

So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's look at the biographies of these "stupid", "ignorant" , "moronic" leaders, and then at the celebrities who are castigating them:

President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic re-election victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other than Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to URBANLEGENDS.COM and see the truth.)

Vice President [censored] Cheney: Earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both in political science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary duties is to share with individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen our >economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capital Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for the United States of America.

Secretary of State Colin Powell: Educated in the New York City public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in June 1958. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal. Several schools and other institutions have been named in his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the country. (Note: He retired as Four Star General in the United States Army)

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: Attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator; Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity, Director of the Cost of Living Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO, 1973-74; head of Presidential Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President, Director of White House Office of Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77; Secretary of Defense, 1975-77.

Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge: Raised in a working class family in veterans' public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor. After returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree and was in private practice before becoming Assistant District Attorney in Erie County. He was elected to Congress in 1982. He was the first enlisted Vietnam combat veteran elected to the U.S. House, and was overwhelmingly re-elected six times.

National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice: Earned her Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's Degree at the University of Notre Dame and a Doctorate from the University of Denver's Graduate School of International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are also in Political Science.) She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984).

She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions. From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military. She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco. Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she resides in Washington, D.C.

So who are these celebrities? What is their education? What is their experience in affairs of State or in National Security? While I will defend to the death their right to express their opinions, I think that if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our leaders, we should also have all the facts on their educations and background:

Barbra Streisand : Completed high school Career: Singing and acting

Cher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade. Career: Singing and acting

Martin Sheen: Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton. Career: Acting

Jessica Lange: Dropped out college mid-freshman year. Career: Acting

Alec Baldwin: Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal. Career: Acting

Julia Roberts: Completed high school. Career: Acting

Sean Penn: Completed High school. Career: Acting

Susan Sarandon: Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. Career: Acting

Ed Asner; Completed High school. Career: Acting

George Clooney: Dropped out of University of Kentucky. Career: Acting

Michael Moore: Dropped out first year University of Michigan. Career: Movie Director

Sarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School. Career: Acting

Jennifer Anniston: Completed High School. Career: Acting

Mike Farrell: Completed High school. Career: Acting

Janeane Garofelo: Dropped out of College. Career: Stand up comedienne

Larry Hagman: Attended Bard College for one year. Career: Acting

While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security. They are privy to information gathered around the world concerning the Middle East, the threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and terrorist-supporting governments. They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies around the world. We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because we watch CNN!! We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our leaders.

These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no fact-finding groups, no insight into the minds of those who would destroy our country. They only have a deep seated hatred for all things Republican. By nature, and no one knows quite why, the Hollywood elitists detest Conservative views and anything that supports or uplifts the United States of America. The silence was deafening from the Left when Bill Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory outside of Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian Serbs in 1995 and 1999. He bombed Serbia itself to get Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo, and not a single peace rally was held. When our Rangers were ambushed in Somalia and 18 young American lives were lost, not a peep was heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after our nation has been attacked on its own soil, after 3,000 Americans were killed, by freedom-hating terrorists, while going about their routine lives, they want to hold rallies against the war. Why the change? Because an honest, God-fearing Republican sits in the White House.

Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was in office, the Hollywood group aligned themselves with disarmament groups like SANE, FREEZE and PEACE ACTION, urging our own government to disarm and freeze the manufacturing of any further nuclear weapons, in order to promote world peace. It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm. They believe we should leave him alone in his quest for these weapons of mass destruction, even though it is certain that these deadly weapons will eventually be used against us in our own cities.

So why the hype out of Hollywood? Could these celebrities believe that since they draw such astronomical salaries, they are entitled to also determine the course of our Nation? That they can make viable decisions concerning war and peace? Did Michael Moore have the backing of the Nation when he recently thanked France, on our behalf, for being a "good enough friend to tell us we were wrong"? I know for certain he was not speaking for me. Does Sean Penn fancy himself a Diplomat, in going to Iraq when we are just weeks away from war? Does he believe that his High School Diploma gives him the knowledge (and the right) to go to a country that is controlled by a maniacal dictator, and speak on behalf of the American people? Or is it the fact that he pulls in more money per year than the average American worker will see in a lifetime? Does his bank account give him clout?

The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a shambles of their own lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and divorces, scrapes with the law, publicized temper tantrums, etc. How dare they pretend to know what is best for an entire nation! What is even more bizarre is how many people in this country will listen and accept their views, simply because they liked them in a certain movie, or have fond memories of an old television sitcom!

It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate ourselves about the world around us. If future generations are going to enjoy the freedoms that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever to know peace in their own country and their world, to live without fear of terrorism striking in their own cities, we must assure that this >nation remains strong. We must make certain that those who would destroy us are made aware of the severe consequences that will befall them.

Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists and join hands, singing Cumbaya and talking of world peace. But it is not real. We did not stop Adolf Hitler from taking over the entire continent of Europe by simply talking to him. We sent our best and brightest, with the strength and determination that this Country is known for, and defeated the Nazi regime. President John F. Kennedy did not stop the Soviet ships from unloading their nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He stopped them with action, and threat of immediate war if the ships did not turn around. We did not end the Cold War with conferences. It ended with the strong belief of President Ronald Reagan... PEACE through STRENGTH.
http://www.mwarrior.com/celebsVwar.htm

I've been to Iraq.. I was young , but appreciative enough to see a beautiful country filled with warm and generous souls.

I'm extremly saddened by the latest of world events.My heart aches equally for the troops of the nations in combat roles in the middle east at present...as it does for the innocents of Iraq.

These Human Shields are not standing infront of military establishments or protecting WMD, they are in schools and hospitals helping where their help is needed. These human sheilds are as innocent as the people of Iraq and thats their point ..one they are willing to die for.

I did find that speech particularily offensive to the men and woman who have fallen for the very author....The men and woman of defence forces around the world who did not die so statements such as the following could be penned from their blood.

The movie stars say they want to go to Iraq and serve as "human shields" for the Iraqis. I say let them buy a one-way ticket and go.

What have the Iraqis done?..it is the regrime that is the criminal....not its people.

or this

If they want to be human shields, I say let them shield the men and women of honesty and integrity that epitomizes courage and embody the spirit of freedom by wearing the proud uniforms of the United States Military. Those are the people who have earned and deserve shielding!

Those are the only people that deserve shielding? What about the honest men , woman and children of Iraq that are stuck in circumstance beyond their control.

The support I have for the troops on the ground, in the air and over the water is unwavering, neither is my support for the innocent people of Iraq.

So as our countries have been forced into a war as the speech states....so have the people of Iraq. How sad the Author does not acknowledge that.

dino,
you have a right to your opinion,
isn't it great to live in a country where we can say what we think without thinking?

Dinotopia,

With all due respect, those "brave" human shields split the scene some time ago when Saddam Hussein tried to position them in front of his troops. I guess the so-called "shields" really didn't want to shield at all and quickly left. We don't bomb the schools or hospitals anyway so it was just a very transparent publicity stunt that blew up in their face.

And noone said the Iraqi "people" did anything, which is why American and British forces strategically target the military and key targets. The only hope is that we get in there before Saddam gasses his own people again, according to British intelligence. See below.

And yes, the Iraqis were forced into war, because Saddam CHOSE WAR. He was given every opportunity to avoid war and he declined.

Saddam may use chemical weapons on his own people, British defense sources say
Wed Mar 19, 1:48 PM ET

By JANE WARDELL, Associated Press Writer

LONDON - Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) may use chemical weapons on his own people and blame the attacks on coalition forces as part of a propaganda war, British defense sources said Wednesday.



The sources, who reflected the government's view, also suggested that Iraqi soldiers dressed in replica uniforms of British and American forces might be ordered to burn Iraqi oil reserves and attack other installations, in raids to be videotaped and shown to supporters in Arab states.

Kurds in the north, the Shias in the south, and people in the suburbs of Baghdad were the most likely to be targeted in a chemical weapons attack by Saddam on Iraqis, the sources said on condition of anonymity.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto..._britain_iraq_propaganda_1&printer=1

And returning that due respect.. its American , British and Australian defence forces. ( including my brother)

And no.... not all human sheilds have left Iraq. The ones with true resolve are still in hospital wards and play/schoolgrounds. And yes they are heroes in my book.

Do I support the war on terrorism?... honestly yes I do.. I want justice..what I dont want and what no one needs is to lose sight of the big picture. I lost a very dear friend in the Bali blast. I want justice for her. What I don't want is the life of another innocent in return....nor would she.

That speech was very poorly written.IMHO

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by dinotopia:
<strong>

That speech was very poorly written.IMHO</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Thats ok. The message was so outstanding that it got rave reviews on my 4000 member fitness forum. I guess some folks see it differently. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

P.S. perhaps the "shields" would be taken more seriously if they went where "shields" were needed, instead of places that won't be hit? Doesn't it sort of defeat the purpose to go places that are not targets? If not, what exactly are they shielding them FROM? I mean really, how is that heroic? Perhaps they would be of better use if they protected the Iraqi people from the real threat: Saddam Hussein?

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crap!

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double post

double post

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. The speech was very well written.

It is also my opinion that these people will never change their view, these protestors. That's fine by me. They have that right. Just as I have the right to disagree and also not spend my money watching their movies, shows, or buying their CDs.

Does no good to argue, so I won't.

The speech was right on.

jd

<small>[ March 21, 2003, 12:07 AM: Message edited by: jdmac1 ]</small>

I voted for Bush, I support Bush and the troops.
In fact, after the last presidential election, I didn't think there was ever any way the Democrats and the Republicans could come together as a unit for anything. I came to associate the word Democratic with everything vile and treacherous that could be. I checked on a lot of movie stars and were disppointed that most of them were Democrats, giving oodles of money for that disgusting party. Not to say the Republicans are squeaky clean either, but the left wing just makes me ill. They never stop and they try to portray that their beliefs on the boob tube are the majority of the nation, while in fact, they are NOT, they are just louder, like a clanging noise. Very annoying.

Anyway, God, in HIS providence got us as a nation back on track with 9-11. What else could have, for a while anyway? Nothing. It was pretty grim in the aftermath of the election. 9-11 was certainly WAKE-UP CALL. A devastating one.

The only reason this nation has gotten where we are is because is was based on Christianity. We are becoming the melting pot and letting all the other nations/cultures overun ours, to our detriment. That's why God said not to mix with others. That's why the pilgrims came here in the first place. Everywhere in the Bible where you see people mixing and taking up the beliefs of the heathens, then trouble abounds. I fear for this country because of it. The moral decay and subsequent behavior accompanying it is what is leading us into the pit of hell.

I don't want war, but it has been forced upon us. I don't know what will happen when the major part of the conflict is over. I don't think the Iraqis' want a Democracy and thus it won't work. They haven't the mentality for it.

I always think of this quote: "All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men
to do nothing."

I agree with the one-=way ticket thingy. I'm sick of their ploys, even under the guise of "heroism". That's not heroism, its stupidity. What message does that give our guys who are REALLY laying their lives on the line? Its just another way for the celebrities to get their name in the papers or on tv. When one of our troops get killed, they say his name on the tv, radio, send a telegram and maybe give the family $250 for burial. Big deal.

Then people like Dale Earnheardt die of stupidity and is lauded as a hero. Hero of what may I ask? Yet when our guys die, our young men, die in training, or in combat, its not counted as a big deal, just another casualty. I tell you, its not casual for their family.

Our troops didn't make the decision to go to war. Yet the decision was made., they are obeying orders and its our job to support them as much as possible.

Here's a site to Adopt a Troop. They will give you a name of a soldier to pray for every day.

http://www.presidentialprayerteam.org/troopsadopt.htm

After all, if they lived in Iraq, they wouldn't be allowed the freedom

> > of speech they're being given here today. Ironically, they would be put

> > to death at the hands of Sadam Husssein or Osama Bin Laden.

How come the author of this speech knows where Osama is?... and no one else seems to. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Again I am going to say that speech was very poorly written.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

never mind

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by dinotopia:
<strong>After all, if they lived in Iraq, they wouldn't be allowed the freedom

> > of speech they're being given here today. Ironically, they would be put

> > to death at the hands of Sadam Husssein or Osama Bin Laden.

How come the author of this speech knows where Osama is?... and no one else seems to. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Again I am going to say that speech was very poorly written.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Thats ok. Excellent content makes up for any writing deficits. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

<small>[ March 21, 2003, 09:18 AM: Message edited by: MelodyLane ]</small>

Here's a Thought....

Pan to the auditorium where the Awards show is being held this Sunday night.....

Imagine all those so called "stars" decked out in jewels and glitzy dresses and tuxedos...

Can you imagine the chaos that would rain down upon them if an explosive device was located in there??? Which one of those people would become a "shield" and throw themselves on it to save their fellow actors??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

It would be an "everyman for himself" kinda reaction. The run on the exits would scatter jewels...wigs...and maybe a few enhancers! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> ...but they would be sure to grab their "goodybags" on the way out (wouldn't want to leave those behind...would we?) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

You can be sure that the next day the headlines would NOT read....

"Actors Join to NOT allow the Punishment of Persons Responsible for Stopping Awards Ceremony"



Give me a break...for the most part they are self appreciating people that are legends in their OWN minds! If they want to take a stand, take a stand as a PERSON...not as some self important title of Movie Star. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

I did not elect those people to the station that they hold in life. Therefore, they in NO way can even speak for me. Last I looked...my proxy was with the people I elected to hold office!

JMHO
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