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Hello Group,<P>I've noticed that for some reason people hold marriage in the loewst esteem. I get this impression from humor, t.v., movies and talking to others.<P>I'm looking for opinions on why our society view marriage in this light and what can be done to reverse this negative view.<P>I'm going to use this topic at our marriage meeting at church in mid-July. Any opinions<BR>expressed would really help a lot.<P>Thanxx in advance.<P>------------------<BR>PSALMS 133<BR>AMOS 7:7-8<BR>ECCLESIASTES 12:1-7

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Because the men in power in this society have as one of their primary goals, actually and entire consistent agenda, MAKING SURE THAT AS MANY YOUNG WOMEN ARE SEXUALLY AVAILABLE AS POSSIBLE. It is all about free sex.<P>If marriage is irrelevent, that helps open more sexual options. <P>If universal access to cheap/free and effective birth control and abortion helps, then they campaign hard to make that the law of the land. <P>If having any arrangement seen as equivalent to marriage will help make marriage less a barrier to freer access to more potential partners, then they will work overtime to see that all lifestyles are perceived to be equivalent to marriage.<P>If kids being seen as unhurt by divorce, fatherlessness makes for fewer marital barriers to free sex, then they will do all they can to prove and demonstrate in the media that kids do great without two parents. And dads don't really hurt anyone by leaving.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I'm looking for opinions on why our society view marriage in this light and what can be done to reverse this negative view.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Okay, will throw out a jumble of general thoughts for your discussion group:<P>Ever since the time of Adam and Eve, man (and woman)has desired self-power and to be his own god. Relationships, particularly as God designed them as described in Ephesians 5, requires commitment and self-sacrifice. A look at the last 80 years in American history shows a people coming out of a depression to prosperity through war times and a desire to provide a better life for the next generation than they had it. Over indulgence along with Dr Spock's book on child raising brought new attitudes on permissiveness to a generation less pressed to put a meal on the table. <P>The 60's era broadcast further autonomy goals for self interspection, to "tune in and turn on", newspaper headlines announced the Beatles assertion that God was dead, and the "me" generation expounded on if it felt good, do it. Women who were significant in war times in the factories struggled for significance, as men reclaimed jobs. Gloria Steinham fueled a vast change in autonomy designates in desiring to be their own woman, whole and complete without the bindings of a man.<P>A lack of role definitions created a generation trying to find themselves and this generation created the gen-X group who continues to find themselves lost without role leaders to help define their purpose in life. Everyone wants to blame everyone else for the problems they have and responsibility recognizes that "someone" should do it, but never the individual. Everyone strives for freedom and in that process, miss the one thing that fulfills all empty holes. The grass remains greener on the other side and the value for happiness increases the discontent. <P>My editorial about it all is that it is amazing to me how Satan takes a truth and twists it and how people buy it lock, stock and barrel. Even in the garden of Eden, where the serpent said, "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."<BR>the desire for wisdom and God's power spurs disobedience. That same desire for power and significance spurred Ananias and his wife to lie about how much money they gave to the body. Satan doesn't want us to know that we have been given the authority over all power of evil already. That our significance is being the child of God and heir to the throne. That men lacking the understanding of the role they have as shepherd leaders demand obedience and submission of wives without first being submissive and understanding Jesus' example of teaching and speaking the truth in love, of how he prayed and sought the father always, how he showed by example how to serve. That wives struggle for balance to be the proverbs 31 wife, to bring her husband good and not evil and yet, to be recognized as vital to the marriage, following as he leads....rebellion begets rebellion, so if husband is rebelling against how God describes marriage, a wife will more than likely rebel in response. Action begets reaction. Generation to generation, etc.<P>The bottom line is that we are a sinful people. Given free will, we take advantage of it. We take a verse like PS 37:4 "Delight yourself in the LORD and he will give you the desires of your heart." and rationalize it that God wants good things for us and we identify numerous "things" that will make us happy...so an unhappy marriage is not what God desires, etc...Satan's lies twisted once again.<P>I think in some ways, we are seeing this verse come to light far more frequently than we wouldlike to admit.<P>2TI 4:3] For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. [4] They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.<P>They forget that that Jesus said in Matt.6:33 "But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. [34] Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."<P>and in MT 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, `Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. "<P>The commitment is incredible.Enough of my soapbox.


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