Mitzi, thl and Honeywest:<P>I think you are right about the people here. It's not your typical internet site. Of course, for the people on the outside, they just don't understand. I do think the trip would be safe. If I can make it, I will be driving so I have some time to decide. It really sounds like fun.<P>thl: With my Username as 711, I can only imagine the image you have of me. You're probably picturing a person shaped like a big old convenience store. Maybe I should change my name to "Wonderwoman". <P>Honeywest:<P>I told my friend about this site because I find it so helpful and he is in the middle of his divorce. I am not too concerned about his reading my posts, because I am a very direct and honest person and he already knows pretty much everything that I post. Of course, if I run into a problem with him, I would then have a problem posting. So, it probably is better to keep this private from others. <BR>

Honey.west,<P>that is a tough dilemma you have because of the strict privacy clause, and total honesty. I think that at some point, in the Harley words, honesty is required, and I believe in sharing all information.<P>But that is me, and I understand your point of view of privacy. however, if this were 1980, you would not have theinternet, who would you talk to? friends or shrinks @$85 per hour. Friends still claim the prize, because you know them and trust their opinion.<P>And friends do let some things slip, or the word does get around. so i think we are advantaged over years ago, but that itself brings a different set of problems.<P>I can't help you since I don't share the pricacy clause as highly as you do. Although I think your only soltion to keep the status quo is to not come. Unless you can more trusting of your friend, there is no way around your personal beliefs without getting hung up somewhere.<P>that doesn't mean you can't, I just don't see anyway around your beliefs so that if anything went wrong, you wouldn't be happy since you violated them.<P>sorry, i can't help<P>thl

<B>Hey Murph,</B><P>ROTFLMAO.........yeah,I do know that you are right!.......I am just having some fun oogling him!!... <P><B>Mitzi,</B><P>Hey girl better watch your back.........looks like the YG/sicko has it bad for you!!........LOL...(better keep those drapes closed!) <P><B>Honey West,</B><P>Hey there. I am glad that I made you giggle!<BR>(I feel like a giggie teenager all over again.....aaaahhhh) <P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>In the olden days of dating, I learned: Never date a man who is prettier than I am, never date a man who wears more hairspray than I do, never date a man who spends more time at the gym than reading the newspaper. And I think I'll add one - never date a man who carries around 8 by 10 B/W glossies of himself...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Man.......I love it......ROTFLMAO!<BR>I really do agree w/all of that!!...too funny!....thanks for the good laugh!<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I think you'll have more fun with this one keeping him panting, and being the one hot babe he can't have... bet he isn't used to that!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Boy do I like the way you think Honey.....that is great!!!......he seems to be a nice guy can flirt really well,and I am just having some fun.(he is only 24 and I just can't see my self getting involved w/him.)I would like to be w/someone a little older than my self. (don't even get me started on the grey hair thing either,man what a turn on!!!) .........he doesn't even have grey hair yet.... <BR>Can we say baby.LOL<P><B>Jen,</B><P>Yep......I have told all of my closest friends and my parents.........I have actually gotten really great support!<P>They think that it is a great idea!<BR>They all trust my jugement and think that it is great that I am getting out and enjoying life for my self........FINALLY!!<P><B>Everybody,</B><P>To the subject on the Open and honesty........I for my self believe that you shouldn't hold anything back!<P>That is one of my top needs......it actually goes hand in hand w/Conversation.........I want to know everything......I feel as tho if I can share my deepest darkest thoughts w/my partner than he should be able to do the same!<P>I also think and feel that in doing so builds the greastest of intimacy!......which for me should be the most important part of a relationship.(and it makes making love such a wonderful and explosive act of love.)<P>I sometimes think that I have a problem w/being too OPEN AND HONEST........I don't know,like maybe it is too much for the other person to handle.You ask me something I will tell you what I feel and think w/out holding anything back.<P>Do any of you think that this can be a BAD thing>>??????????<P>Gina<P>------------------<BR>"If we deny love that is given to us,if we refuse to give love because we fear pain or loss,then our lives will be empty,our loss greater!"-----Anonymous----<p>[This message has been edited by w.g.up.h (edited August 27, 2000).]

Gina:<P>I don't think being very open and honest is a bad thing. I am just like you on that account. I think sometimes I intimidate people with how direct I can be, but I can never be classifed as phony. And, people who are phony drive me nuts.<P>Jen

Gina, Jen, thl, well you all did help me - thank you!<P>I have been struggling over this, not because I am not honest with him, or don't trust him, we really do talk about all of my feelings and things...but I start to feel like I am gossiping, when I talk about him. I really hate that. So!<P>For me, I have to see this as different than a group behind closed doors, this is very open - I did try to get my ex to read this while we were separated, I even printed out things and sent them to him. Obviously didn't do much good. And I have recommended it to people I know going through a divorce.<P>I just won't talk about him anymore (even though he probably would love knowing I tell everyone how wonderful he is!). So that way I don't have to feel like I am talking about him behind his back - and accept that this is an open forum - making it personal, doesn't necessarily mean private, that I can discuss it with him, that I wouldn't be betraying anyone here either... <P>Sometimes it is very hard to see the right thing to do, this is a good place to find objective opinions. I do analyze things to death, which can be annoying. But better than those who just don't think about these things at all. <P>

MUCH BETTER!<P>those that don't talk, and are just reactionary, really aren't very mature.<P>It is maturity that brings the acceptance of divergent views, and not have to fight over them.<P>great! hope you will be there!<P>thl

Gina,<P>Hi, sorry I have been out of the loop,but its a rough week for me. My weekend went great, hope yours did too.<P>I have a problem with being too honest and open. Sometimes I think I need to learn to be more private . Not here on the board, but in relationships. Sometimes, its not always to my advantage.<P>Honey, its a long time away, maybe you'll feel different in December. I am going and dont' know if I'll bring someone, I'd say chances are, I won't. Then he'd want to read what I post here, and I too would lose my annonymous safety that I have. For now, he doesn't know and I'll leave it at that.<P>The idea of a divorce seminar, thats a good idea, I'm going to use that one. Its either that, or a Sexual Addiction Seminar, which do you think will go over better with the family????<P>As far as the work thing, I think I read something about 90% of all affairs begin at work, so if people up to no good are doing it at work, on the copy machine, in the elevator, whatever, then 2 normal healthy single people can do what they please.<P>Me personally, it was fine til it ended. Then the elevator just never was the same <P>Hugs, Dana<BR>

Hey Dana,<P>It is ok...........I am glad that you had a great weekend! Mine was pretty good!<P>I do agree w/that.......I am so open and honest everybody knows everything about me.<BR>No,privacy at all!......sometimes I wish that I coud jut keep my big mouth shut!<P><BR>I have told everyong in my family and co-workers!.........My MIL thinks that if you have an PC and on the internet than it is evil!<P>He actually said yesturday to me as we were walking back into the building.........<BR>These 2 boys were touching eachother and we both went on the explain they needed to keep there hands off eachother!.......<P>He even said and "Yeah........you don't see me w/my hands all over her"....("she would like that!!")..........i turned and looked at him and w/the biggest grins..........<BR>YOU WISH!!!......Man what an ego!<P>Today we were walking into the cafeteria,he says to me......"Age before Beauty"<P>Man what an EGO!!!<P>Have a great week<P><P>------------------<BR>"If we deny love that is given to us,if we refuse to give love because we fear pain or loss,then our lives will be empty,our loss greater!"-----Anonymous----

Gina,<P> I keep telling ya,Gina,stick to the ugly ones.....you'll save money by not buying him new mirrors all the time! <P><BR> ~~EvilMurph

Hey EM!!<P>How's it going........YAWN!<P>I know.......it is fun and all but that is really as far as it goes!<P>I don't think that I will have to go for a ugly one!..........Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! <P>It is what is on the inside that counts!<BR>(and how much he has in his back pocket!)<BR>ROTFLMAO!......you know that I am just kidding,just had to say it!....I am a little punchy and I am going to bed!<P>Have a good one!<P>Gina <P>

711 wrote <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> thl: With my Username as 711, I can only imagine the image you have of me. You're probably picturing a person shaped like a big old convenience store. Maybe I should change my name to "Wonderwoman". <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Nope, just the old warty cash register clerk with no teeth at the 7-11.<P> <BR>