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#715056 04/30/03 05:16 PM
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Mx8 - If you didn't see Wallace's post and have already sent the Plan B letter, could you post it here anyway for us to read? Knowing what you said will help us support you. And we're here for you, don't forget that.

EC - What is your courtdate in May? Let me know and I'll be praying for you.

Me - Sorry, y'all you're a little bit off the mark. Hubby's g/f lives in California, so she won't be coming to niece's wedding. I honestly don't think he'd be THAT crass to bring her when we aren't divorced. However, they will be living together in NYC this summer as he finishes his PhD <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

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Hi everyone, just wanted to let you know that I didn't get the post before I sent the plan B letter I was quite emotional when I wrote it and here it is, I really don't think it had an impact, we talked for the last time last night and the conversation ended hostile with him telling me that I am acting the way that cause him to leave.....I am glad I saw that side of him again because then his I love you's and his undying love for me are just words......which in my heart I knew all along I just wanted to believe it so badly. He read this letter yesterday at 5:00pm and when I questioned him about a bill at 9:30pm he said you don't have to remind me about the bills all the time, yet he doesn't pay them. I know its really over now, I was holding on to something I don't think I ever really had.

Well here is the Plan B

I get up each and everyday with lonliness that is just unbearable. I try to tell myself this is a new day and it will get better. I try to imagine my life without out you and I just crumble to the floor, yet I am living my life withou you and I am making it each day, crumbling yet making it. Egor, your tone has changed with me because I am sticking up for myself, because my heart was broken by the one person that said would never hurt it. I am in constant pain, you say you are too, but you chose this. So, my love, if I choose this then maybe the pain won't be as bad, and the anger can start going away, in some way knowing that I made the choice and not you won't hurt so bad. The rejection from the one you love leaves you with such a wound that only time can heal, and each day I hear your voice, it oozes a little more. The only analogy I can say is this, that when you have a scab and you keeping picking at it, it will bleed and continue to until you just leave it alone and give it time to heal, but you just have the urge that you have to pick at it. That may have been a gross analogy but a good one I thought. You have wounds, I have wounds, mine are very fresh and yours are of the past. You know its like the Cher song "if I could turn back time" read the lyrics. This is the hardest thing I have ever had to do, first was losing you and having to deal with it everyday not having you near me, now the next step is to cease all contact between each other, we are picking the scab Egor. I know you want to just focus on getting back here and act like everything is ok, but Egor, I filed for divorce on March 21, 2003. You still have not done any of the things that I expected you would do, which in turn is making me feel like we have nothing to look forward to. I didn't ask of you anything that would not be your responsibility anyway.

1. Get into counseling
2. Get off all the meds to help you deal with us
3. Attend AA meetings (they will pick you up you know)
4. Get a job (isn't there a 7 Eleven at the end of the road, however if your intentions were to do that it should have been already done, now you have to wait until you get here, if you still plan on that.
5. Go to church everytime the doors are open (they will pick you up)
6. Financially take care of your family
7. Find a place here to live near the kids
8. Find a job here and take care of your kids needs emotionally and financially.

I don't think these are unrealistic expectations, I do it everyday all by myself and take care of 8 kids.
When you left it was for you to get better, you sent me back an email this morning stating your problem is not an addiction, well I beg to differ because you are an alcoholic and that will never change. I am no good to you and you are no good to me as we are right now, and face it that may never change. We may never be good for each other ever again. We can fight it and say its you and me against the world and that because we love each other so deeply we can make it. Well some of that is true but there is 8 children involved and we are placing the needs of ourselves first and that is wrong. The children will be scarred for life, your decision that you made was very selfish because you did not think of them as you should have. That is something you will have to pay the consequences for. You asked me to write you a email that was nice. Did you think of being nice and fair too me when you refused my calls, when you refused to have anything to do with me. When you told me to "Get over it". I am fighting back tears right now because I am telling the one person that I love with all my heart and soul that we may never be together again. I just started to cry when I wrote that, this is so hard for me because when I tried to tell you my feelings about your letter, when it was my feelings you didn't want to hear that you wanted to hear me say "oh honey that was so sweet you made my heart melt" Michael the person that wrote that letter was also the person that hurt me so deeply that I may never recover. Am I scared to death??? yes I am, I am afraid of losing you forever but I feel like I already have because I don't have your whole heart because you still refuse to come home. If you really felt about me the way you said in the letter it would not be humanly possible for you to remain away from me. You keep telling me to wait, I have waited for 2 months and that may not sound like much to you but it is for me. It is 2 months of my life that I took the focus off of all other areas of my live, such as my children, my job, and God, This is all too consuming on a daily basis. Our children have seen their father one time since Mar 3, 2003. I have seen my husband one time since he has left me. When you leave your family you take a very big risk and their are consequences for actions and Egor this time Shari can't fix this one because it's my heart that is broken and that is one thing Mommax8 doesn't know how to fix that is left in GOD'S hands now because I can't do it anymore. The chance of reconciliation for us consists of certain criteria that needs to be met by the other before reconciliation is even considered, the promise of what can, or what will be just don't cut it. You always have good intentions but this time instead of not paying a bill and losing a possession, you are losing me and the trustworthines of the kids. Egor I continue to enable you to keep doing the same things over and over again and I am the one expecting different results. You keep saying I thought we had a plan. Well we had a plan when we moved to Texas, Virginia, Maine and Tennessee, look where our plans have gotten us. ................................I lose a piece of you each day and I have no control over it but you do and you aren't willing to do that, you just won't, you have your plans with your father and going fishing on that boat is more important. Basically the proof will be in the pudding, How much do you really love me Egor, your reaction to this letter will tell me and you need to really think about it because your reaction to this can determine our future. Yes, it is alot of pressure but Egor its timefor action. It's choice time, your choices in life lead your to your direction in the future what is yours going to be.I N more calls nor more contact except for the kids.......I still love you and don't you ever forget that it will never change, I just need to do what is best for me and the kids right now.....

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((((Mx8))))

I know that letter was difficult to write. Your list of 8 expectations are not unreasonable and most are things that any wife would need and expect. During this upcoming time period, you need to work on YOU, what you can do to improve yourself and change any habits, negative mindsets, etc. about yourself. Make sure to read up on "Plan B" here on the Marriage Builders site.

I did have two questions, maybe it was in another thread when you first started coming here, but do you mind sharing about what caused your H to leave? Was there an incident, a confirmed or suspected affair, a legal problem, some behavior thing, etc.? ALSO, how are you existing financially? I think you're living with your parents but not sure. Do you know about any governmental/ community assistance in your area? With 8 kids, don't be afraid to take advantage of whatever services you and your kids need.

Also, you may want to edit that last post if you used the real name of your H and any others in it. You can substitute fake names (might be fun - Peachy uses names from the Beverly Hillbillies show) or just use H for husband. One never knows who reads these public boards...

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Thank you for the advice I really needed it, I changed the names I really wasn't thinking when I wrote it. As far as what happened when he left be began drinking again after 12 years of being of sober.

He ruined our family vacation in August, I was working 2 jobs through the holidays to make ends meet and he is disabled with bipolar and does not work outside the home. However I found out he was drinking quite heavily with the children were around and he picked me up from work one day totally drunk with the keys in the car, that day he ended up in rehab that was Jan 3, 2003. He was discharged on Jan 16th and was ok for about a month but never attended AA nor ever apologized for what he did to me and the kids. The doctors then prescribed narcotic medication to him which was wrong because he will take all of it and that is what he did.

He wrecked the van with my 2 children in the car, then when my mother picked him up with me he passed out the entire way home, he then walked in the door and fell down the stairs with our daughter, he said he had enough and started packing his belongings, I asked him where he was going he had no where to go. He started to take the computer and I said No , he called 911 because i wouldn't let him have the computer, needless to say when the police arrive they knew he was under the influence, took him to the hospital and his parents came down and he left with them on March 3, and he hasn't seen us but once since. He is alcohol and drug free completely now and sounds like the person I knew but he still don't take responsibility for anything he never did in our marriage and he won't now. I know it is my fault for staying in it for so long, but I just can't describe to you how much I love him, I didn't think it was possible to love someone this much that wasn't your child.

As far as assistance I have a wonderful support system, the problem I am having is the financial commitments that were made by both of us and he does not feel now he has any obligation, not to mention child support. I have a wonderful church family and they have been very emotionally supportive, and the state is helping with food and childcare. The main thing is we had just bought a house and closed on it a month before he left and we rented out our old one and had to lease it for less so I have to pay $1000 for the new house and $100 for the old for the difference, I am totally overwhelmed and feel like everything is just caving in on me.

Thanks for the supports

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Hi all!

Mommax8:You wrote a good Plan B letter. What you asked him to do is realistic and fair; now, it is up to him.

Avondale: I stand corrected. :p I did not know that your H and his slut were living in different states. Boy, that relationship is going to last.

EC: Continue to move forward. Even though you will be finish with CS next year, strive for your goals anyway. I know the financial hit hurts every month, but try to work around it.

Wallace: Stop! laugh Are you kidding? cool After two years or so, then I will see evaluate things at that time but not before. I'm still waiting for the shingles to blow off the roof. :eek:

Later.

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Petvet - poor buddy, still don't have those icons down yet, huh? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> I wonder if your computer has some type of anti-icon virus thing on it, LOL. Although it does appear that you put them in appropriate places! Maybe the javascript factor at this MB site wasn't working.

Me - THE FAMILY WEDDING is tomorrow. I've got my dress and will be as ready as I ever will be. Y'all pray for me around 1 PM EST if you think about it. Don't know if hubby will attend or not.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

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Hi all,

thanks for the feedback on my plan B letter, i have done really well without calling him however, he emailed me after I sent him the month's bill ledger and asked if we could talk about it. I emailed him back strictly business. Well, he calls me at 8:30pm and proceeds to discuss us I said I am not going to talk about that, I need the money you owe me, he tells me that he just doesn't have and that is that and he then goes on to say "why can't we just have a peaceful conversation and not talk about all this stuff, I said sorry can't I have to pay the bills, bye.

GOOD FOR ME!!!!!!!!!! He told me he will be here on May 22 for girls grad, then permanently around the 4th of June, I gave no reply......I think I am at the anger stage again because I am getting ready to lose everything and he just don't care.

Well I hope all is well for all of you

AVONDALE I'll pray for you!!!!

Prayers to all

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Hi All,

Well today is Friday and another weekend is here, can you believe we're already half way through the year?

MommaX8

That was a great plan B letter. I'm proud of the way you handled his phone call. As you continue to show him your strength, he'll break his neck to get back without your help. WHY? because he is loosing the control over you. Remember, it's him who needs you more than you need him, but he has convinced you otherwise!

Avondale

Yes, I have gotten a few dresses from that site. I attend quite a few real estate events as well as fund raising events for a local charity. And I like to have a different but elegant look! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
We'll have to go there for Wallace's and Petvet's weddings when we all get together. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Be back later,
God Bless,
relady

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Hi all,

Well the weekend is just about here... and I'm trying to get ready for it because I have a ton things that are on my plate that I need to get done.

mommax8...

I think you're Plan B letter was pretty good. You covered all the bases and now the ball is in his court.

Let his actions be your gauge on what steps you need to do next concerning your "M".

Continue working on getting yourself and your children pointed in the right direction.Take all the necessary steps to prepare yourself and your children to lead lives without your "H" if in fact he cannot get his act together.

As avondale stated... read up on Plan B if you haven't already.

I'll be praying for you and your children.

EC...

Sorry to hear that your YD is testing the waters.

After my exW left... both of my daughters kicked in and tested the waters several times with me at the helm by myself (boy issues as well). It was a little rough at first... but things started leveling out soon after, with my YD at least.

When you get your finances straightened out... everything will start opening up for you. That will be a nice feeling for you I'm sure.

Keep up the good work.

Petvet...

You keep that mindset my friend... your going to need it... LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Funny thing is... I said the very same thing as what you just posted above. In fact... I had to have the "talk" with my G/F again... this is like the second or third time we have had the "talk".

I'm sticking to my guns too! I'm going to wait at least until next year concerning anything having to do with "M".

I'll give my G/F credit though... she is persistant... LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Feel free to tell us at anytime when you have had the "talk" with your buddy... LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> it will come... it's just a matter of when. LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

avondale...

I'll be saying a prayer for you for tomorrow.

Your probably going to start to get this sick feeling... if you haven't already started feeling it.

You will do good... just go in there and let them know that life is good and have a good time.

Say a prayer before you go and let the Lord lead your way through it.

Your right... if his G/F is in California... I don't think you have to worry about her being there.

Good luck tomorrow and have fun.

relady...

I clicked on that link that you posted for avondale, and I must say that they have some very stylish dresses.

If and when I get married <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> you and avondale can both come to my wedding... but you both have to promise to wear one of those dresses from that sight. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Hope everyone has a good weekend.

Stay Strong!

Wallace

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Hope everyone had a great weekend!

EC - did you get any tornadoes in your area?

Wallace - did you say you had to have ANOTHER TALK with your g/f?? You call that persistence and you're right, but there is a down side to that trait, too - some call it "nagging".

Petvet - did you go to the concert this weekend? You need to share more about your "buddy" so we can give you all our wisdom <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Mx8 - Have you checked into any "consumer credit counseling" type of organizations in your area? They may be able to advise you about your financial circumstances. Do you feel like you have people around you (friends or family) who can help you make decisions about what to do with your housing/expenses situations?

Relady - I didn't get a dress from the site - just wore my new Easter dress - but remind me about it again when these two guys get married! Most of the dresses appear to be the type that would add some additional self-esteem to the wearer. However, I shouldn't need to order one anytime this year, so the guys say.... LOL

Me - Well...the wedding went well. From the time I arrived, I was in the company of one or more in-laws the entire time. I'm not sure if this was planned (maybe by God <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> ) but it made me feel very much at ease. Of course, they didn't ignore hubby, either, but it certainly seemed I got way more of their attention. In the food line, I passed him and said "hi" and was going to move on but he asked where I was sitting. I said something to the effect of "some chair, somewhere" and he said "I'll join you when I get my food." Is this fog or what? LOL But I ended up sitting with his brother and others; hubby didn't join us, and I didn't see him but at a glance after that. I did feel bad for my daughter because she was literally caught in the middle, but she seemed to handle everything well too. It turned out to be a very nice afternoon, I'm real glad I went. Thanks to all of you for your suggestions & support.

If I missed anyone, sorry!

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Wanted to give update only have a moment, but wanted to let you know....stbxh is on family vacation in myrtle beach....12yr old daughter was sent to alternative school, and 15yr old brother is sent to juvenile hall yesterday due to defending his sister and threatening a student....i think I am about to lose it....Please pray pray pray..........

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Mx8 - Wanted you to know that I read your post and have prayed for you just now. I hope you have a good support system around you there - both family and non-family who can stand by you during this. Try to not get too stressed; as parents we can only do the best we know how and ultimately God has given our kids to us for a short time anyway. Unfortunately part of this is probably due to your H's behavior (which isn't helping, I know) but that's out of your control too. You're in my thoughts and prayers!

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Hi all,

It was a busy weekend and a busy day yesterday for me.

Hope everyone had a good weekend.

avondale...

I'm pleased to hear that you went to the wedding and had an enjoyable time.

What's with your "H" asking you if you wanted him to join you... and then disappearing for the rest of the wedding. Sometimes I think these WSs have lost most of their mind (fog?). I think it goes a lot farther than that... but that's just my opinion.

That was so nice of your in-laws to go the extra mile to make you feel comfortable while you were there. I wish I had in-laws like that... but alas... they are just as whacked as my exW is.

I'll bet that your D was feeling like she was caught in the middle while all of this was going on. Was her "H" there with her?

So now that the wedding is behind you... what's next on the agenda?

mommax8...

I've been saying prayers for you and your children. You really have quit a bit going on.

Sometimes when things like this happens... the kids have a tendency to go out of control.

I'll keep you in my prayers.

Hang in there... your in the middle of the storm... it won't last forever. It will get better.

Hope everyone else is doing well.

Stay Strong!

Wallace

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Hi all!

Mommax8: I am praying for you. Do you have family or friends that can help you? You have too much pressure on you. Can you move in with family including parents?

Avondale: I'm glad to hear that evrything went well at the wedding. It's amazing that your H was coming off as though things were business as usual. You are correct when yyou said that I am having trouble with the icons. They appear to take on when I send things through, but don't appear on the actual post. I don't know what's going on. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

Wallace: Things are going well between my buddy and I. She is still trying to deal with issue of dating a younger guy, but she says that she is dealing with it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> I know you are not going to get hitch anytime soon, right! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Me: I missed the concert on Saturday because I came across a police road block and discovered that my license had expired; well, to make a long story short, my car was impounded. That's all I can say because I am so mad but I have cooled down some. I got my car back but a little poorer.
What can I say! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

And I'm gone. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />

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Hi there all,

Wanted to give you an update and also some more information as far as where I am living and ect... the children are ok. Daughter started alternative school today because our county had been closed due to the flooding in Tennessee. Also, I was able to get a reprieve for my son due to the circumstances and him standing up for his sister and feeling he has to be the male role.

As far as my living arrangements, On Jan 18th I closed on a new home that we had purchased with my folks in order to take care of them as they get older and as well as my 93yr old grandmother. It has now turned around to where my parent's are having to help me and the kids and I assist with my grandmother when I have time. My father and mother had both planned on retiring after we bought the house and travel so they would not be there very often, father retired from airlines so they have free flight benefits.
This was the dream home for all of us a 3 story log cabin, 7 bed 5 bath and we have a creek with rapids running along the back of the 3 1/2 acres, it is beautiful. There are two separate living rooms and kitchens in which my parent's were going to be downstairs but since my H left I gave them the master suite upstairs and took the bedroom and bath down in the rec room which essentially is another suite in itself.

None of us would have been able to afford this house without all of us pitching in but we wanted it for the kids. Well now my parent's are both still working, I have had to cut back at work to 3 days in which, I am very lucky to even be able to keep my job since I have really not been with it since he left.

We do attend a local church and they have been wonderful, the emotional and financial aspect is what is hitting me the most but if I didn't have my parent's and the church and my co-workers i would never be able to do this and of course more importantly you all......thank you for your prayers..

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Petvet...

You got your car impounded? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

How long had it been since your license expired?

Wow, I guess you were having a bad day to say the least.

What concert, and who were you going to see?

I'll bet that was some night... glad you got your car back.

I'm not ready to get hitched at the moment... I like being single. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

mommax8...

It sound like you have a very nice house, and it's good that you have family with you.

If it makes you feel any better (and it probably won't), I don't know one couple who ended up richer than what they already were prior to their marriage breaking up.

When your in the middle of a "D" both parties ususally take a financial hit.

It's emotionally draining as well as financially... as time goes on it does get better.

Well I hope everyone has a good day.

Stay Strong!

Wallace

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Petvet - </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Me: I missed the concert on Saturday because I came across a police road block and discovered that my license had expired; well, to make a long story short, my car was impounded. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Does this mean YOU discovered your license had expired (didn't you have a birthday not that long ago?) or do you mean the POLICE discovered it? I hope your buddy wasn't in the car with you, that would have made it worse -- at the least, a very memorable date, LOL. Although I have a feeling that's not the way you'd want your date to be memorable <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

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Hi Guys and Gals..........

Looks like everyone is doing pretty good..

Petvet - Sorry to see the car incident happen, I'm sure thats no fun, but hey life goes on just move with it.

Avondale - Glad to see you're coming along and dealing with things one day at a time. There is sunshine at the end of the storm. The tornado's hit around me, no damage, but in my old neighborhood 25 miles away I heard it was in shambles not much left.

Wallace - Looks like things are going good between you and your lady friend, I think your relationship is so hot, I could probably cook a roast if you two stood by it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> ...

Blessings to everyone else!

Me: I haven't posted lately, my circumstance is too negative right now to help anybody lots of drama. I filed my petition for a final child support arrearage adjustment and my exw filed a counter-suit for Contempt of Court for a ($30.00 re-imbursement medical bill for YD) exw is also seeking my arrest and requested a trial and is trying to make me travel 1,200 miles to court over this when in the past it's been by telephone. She's trying to get me there to try to embarrass me in the courtroom then she thinks they're going to haul me off jail immediately. As I said it's been her burning desire to get me in the courtroom, some fantasy of hers.

What I filed was to have the court adjust the arrearage according to my actual dollars earned during the time I was unemployed and the time I started working, that simple, that's the most honest request ever. I didn't even need her involvement, this was about me.

In fact I became unemployed due to exw's multiple affairs because of the emotional affect it had on me.

She has now decided to escalate a court war that is unbelievable. Exw made 8 allegations that I have to defend myself on that has nothing to do with child support. But it's an attempt to try to make me look like this unresponsible deadbeat father. This is unreal....I'll have my court date as soon as I send in my final papers next week it should occur sometime here in May, the court is waiting on me. I wish I could have afforded an Attorney from the start, but who would have thought a person would continually lie and make things up. This court session I'm exposing exw for all she's done and doing.

The Good point - I have 370 days left, almost inside 1 year now before I'm all done with this mess. I also discovered the arrearage date the court set as default and the arrearage date filed by exw are different, to my favor they're 8 months apart, therefore if they uphold the date exw filed she loses $5,000 and I pay $300 for the remainder of arrearages and I'm done...

Please really pray for me, this a real attack of the enemy trying to accuse me falsely and trying to keep me in financial bondage and keep its hold on me trying to put me in jail and I'm not some bad guy, that I know. I don't know why this evil thing is fighting me harder and harder as I get closer to the end.

Take Care

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Hi All,

The weekend is upon us again. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

EC

I'm sorry to hear about your recent problems. I will be praying for you, let us know when your court date will be. If you can't afford an attorney, the Lord has already appointed Himself for you, so be encouraged.

I was just thinking, where did you guys find these wives, then I remembered, probably the same dirt pile we found our husbands. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

Petvet

My H left around the time my license expired as well. When your mind is preoccupied with mess, it's hard to concentrate. The police didn't stop me, but I was going to open a new account at the bank and discovered my license had been expired for weeks. I'm just glad I didn't have to take another test. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

Why is your buddy still having a problem with your age? Could she be getting heat from friends and relatives? This is not good!

Wallace

I can't believe you don't see a problem yet. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> Aren't there any bells going off yet? It doesn't appear she is respecting your wishes as far as the marriage conversation. It sounds like a case of, "I want what I want when I want it." I could be wrong, but not usually. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Avondale

I'm glad you had a great time at the wedding. If the OW lives in California, how often could they see each other? Wait until they have a chance to be with each other in NY, they'll find out their not for each other. I think the more time WS spend with the OM or OW, the romance or fantasy ends sooner.

Mommax8

Glad to hear you have a lot of support. Now concentrate on becoming a better you.

Me

I'm doing the Revlon Run Walk this weekend, I've been doing it for 5 years and love it.

Have a Great Weekend,
God Bless,
relady

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Hi All,

Sorry I'm so late in posting... there is a big shake-down going on at work... and I may be unemployed on Monday... it has not been a good year for the Company I work for so far this year... so I may be in the soup line on Monday.

Say prayers for me everyone... this is really the last thing I need to have happen at the moment.

EC...

She is trying to bring up 8 charges on you?

What are they?

Your exW is unbelievable... she is in about the same league as mine, from what I'm hearing.

I was feeling the very same way you are right now about not posting.

I didn't want to post... because of all the negative garbage that I had going on in my life (I still do but I find that it helps to air it out and get other opinions). The negativety will just bring you down... if you let it. You have to air it out or it will start to consume you.

keep posting... no matter what... it does help and we are here for you.

You as well as all of us are in my prayers.

relady...

Oh I have bells going off all over the place... I'm just wearing ear plugs at the moment... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> j/k

You all make me laugh when you post some of the things that you do... and that is a good thing.

I think we did all marry the same type of dirt bags at about the same time... LOL.

Good luck on your run... I run/walk and work out too... it's good for the brain and the cardiovascular system.

avondale...

It is quite amazing what we start to let go (license, and who knows what else) when we are caught up in all the garbage.

At least you caught yours in time.

mommax8...

How are you holding up?

I know this has been hard on you. It's hard on all of us... you make the best judgements that you can and adjust accordingly.

Keep us up to date with how your holding up... this is one of the hardest things you will ever go through in your life... my prayers are with you and your children.

Petvet...

Are you legal now?

avondale brought up a good quetion... did this happen when you were with your buddy? Boy, I hope not... say it didn't happen with your buddy there.

Well I hope everyone has a good weekend.

Stay Strong!

Wallace

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