Wallace , I know that was a hard decision to make about no contact with your OD and I'm sure you didn't do it without a lot of thought. I feel sorry for your YD, having to once again run into her mother in an awkward situation - in front of her friends, no less! It sounds like she handled it as well as possible, by getting the info you've needed for so long now. And it did prove to you that your OD was lying <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> Please keep in mind that your exww is probably feeding lies to her, too, just as in EC's case. But I think you're doing the right thing. Watch out that YD doesn't get caught in the middle now, between you and your OD. Has this development put your dilemma with g/f on hold?

EC - great use of the smileys there! LOL Sounds like your exww isn't very happy and is covering all her bases! Maybe you should look up her b/f email address and forward the info to him (anonymously, of course, by making up a fake email addy with yahoo or hotmail).

Relady - welcome back...do you have any interesting stories to tell????

Eduard Is your lunch this weekend? Let us know how it goes.

Petvet <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
Have a great weekend, everyone!

<small>[ August 08, 2003, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: avondale25 ]</small>

Hi all!

Relady: I'm glad you had a good vacation. My buddy's brother just moved to the Ft. Laud area to invest in real estate. He has a condo on the beach.

Wallace: I cannot blame you for disassociating with your OD. She is trying to get back at you.

Avondale & EC: I hope all is well.

Me: Well, I had a situation to come up yesterday. A couple of days ago, exw call to tell me that she needed to talk about son. Well, she informs me that kid told his GPs that buddy does not want him around. This was news to me because he always like to go over to her pad and he likes her daughter. He had never said anything to me. When I asked kid about what he had said, he said that he did not say anything like that. I know how kids are, so he may have said something,but it does not make sense. Exw tells me that she has a boyfriend and assume that I am dating someone because I went on vacation with buddy and the kids even though I have never said anything of the sort to her. Exw made a general comment that I need to be careful who I have around our kid. After the initial conversation, I called exw again to find out whether kid just made the statement or whether something lead up to the statement. She admitted that he was talking about buddy's daughter and it went from there. Of course buddy is beside herself because she thinks exw is trying to start something when she does not know her nor the situation. I spoke with exw this morning to make a couple of things clear. When I told her that I wish kid was not involve in this stuff, she responded that if I had given her a second chance, he would not be going through this. I nearly passed out. When I quickly followed up for an explanation of her comment, she clammed up. When I requested another clarification, she said never mind. What bothers me about this is that I believe she is telling everyone lies that I did not give her a second chance; therefore, the marriage ended. As you well know, I gave her numerous chances. I am being made out to be the bad guy. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> What do you guys think I should do, or better yet how do you think I should handle the situation.

Later.

Hi All,

I hope everybody had a good weekend.

EC...

It is amazing about what a ww ex-spouse is capable and willing to do. That is pretty good... she's still shopping around... nothing surprises me when it comes to ex-wives, not anymore.

Your Court date is coming up soon... how do you think things will go?



avondale...

After much deliberation... I decided to take the stance I did. It was a very hard decision to come to... but I felt it was in the best interest for all of us to take this position. Hopefully my OD will snap out of it and start coming to her senses... I can only pray.

My G/F and I are getting along very well. She just finished moving again... into her new house. The game plan is (at least for the time being), that she will probably be there for about 2 to 3 years and then we wil start considering getting married and looking for a new house that she and I can live in after we are married. With a little luck and a lot of help from the "Lord"... I think we will make it.



relady...

What happened? Did you decide to go back to the beach and extend your vacation?

Petvet...

Hope everything is well with you my friend... let us know when you get a chance.

Stay Strong!

Wallace

Hey Petvet,

We must of cross posted or something.

It appears that your exW may be pumping your son for information and your son is giving your exW some pretty interesting information. Be careful with what you have going on there... you may want to keep the visits with your son and your Buddy limited as much as possible for the time being, or figue a way that you can have your son keep any information that he has between you and him.

Your exW may want to revisit the Courts and try to get custody of your son if she keeps hearing what she's hearing. By the sounds of the statement she made to you... she may do just that.

I can't believe your exW making the comment about you not giving her a sceond chance... of course... after awhile they truly start believing their own lies.

Did your son ever tell you anything at all about this prior to talking to your exW... that he truly felt that way about your Buddy not liking him?

What's your Buddy think about all of this?

My 2 cents worth... I would limit your son's exposure with your Buddy for awhile. Let things settle down, and have a heart to heart with your son about coming to you first with anything that he feels may be bothering him. That way... your not hit with any surprises like you just were.

Let us know how you make out on this one.

Stay Strong!

Wallace

<small>[ August 12, 2003, 04:11 PM: Message edited by: Wallace ]</small>

Petvet ,
I don't have any post-separation young child experience, but what Wallace said makes sense and sounds smart to me. Limit your son's exposure to your buddy for a while. Part of why your son may be saying things (even making it up) is probably due to his age and immaturity. And of course, he could be saying what he knows his mom (exw) wants to hear. Add to that the fact he was talking to GPs and things get really muddy. So give him less to talk about.

You're NOT the bad guy and there are plenty of posts on this thread to prove how many chances you gave her and how much you tried.

<small>[ August 11, 2003, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: avondale25 ]</small>

Hi Gang!

Hope all is going well this week!

Yesterday I had new experience <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

I had to call my kids to see how school was going since they just started....Well to my surprize exww's BF answered exww home phone <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

I said to myself what a " Doofus " <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

He sounded like a typical " [censored] with big Ears <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> " he said Hellwo <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

All I could think was, you idiot,she's using you and going behind your back, you're just where I was with her secret email accounts fishing for men and she's going to dump you for somebody else one day soon and I just had to laugh <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> What's going to be funny in time to come is there's going to be dual between her BF and the next guy that comes along and then he'll be burnt to a crisp <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />

He's a thug and controller her outcome this time may not be good.

One fact to remember ALL prodigals, the decieved, and betrayers eyes do come open one day and when they do what a mess they find themselves in, so hang in there...examples:

Judas - Saw what he did
Prodigal son - came to himself
Adam /Eve - Eyes became open - mind
Gomer - I will return to my first husband
David - With Bathsheba I have sinned against God

When they saw what they did they turned, until then they continued in there sin..

While It sounded in previous emails I surrendered to exww doings, I haven't

Anyway YD/OD was not there..that was that..

Take Care

Hey everyone,

Well it's been another busy week (nothing really new there), and I'm getting ready to start my weekend here real soon.

All is quiet on my end, but that will change I'm sure... it always does.

Getting finished on getting my G/F settled in her new house... and got my YD registered for her Senior year in High School, so it's been a hectic week.

avondale...

How are things holding up on your end?

Have you heard anything from your "H" as of late?

EC...

I agree with what you posted... if they only knew half of what we know about our exWs... they would run for the hills if they were smart. But maybe that is their punishment... we were set free from our WWs antics or we are in the process of being set free from them, and they are going to get just what's coming to them.

To me... that's where the Lord begins to put forth his justice... and at that point all of their eyes start opening up, IMHO.

I hope eveyone has a great weekend.

Stay Strong!

Wallace

I haven't been updating my post here lately, but here's the latest for me. WW and I have been on talking terms from Plan B to Plan A. Honestly, I haven't found out what her true EN's are via the questionnaire. I have been trying to just be a friend at this point and not pushy, clingy or over bearing.

She doesn't live with me so it's not a daily thing but we have had conversations quite frequently. We haven't discussed anything about "our" plans but we have talked about what we as individuals have been up to and may be planning.

She hasn't given me hardcore evidence of wanting to say we'll try and work on things so I just take the little tidbits here and there.

Not even quite sure if I want to sell out completely and Plan A like I could which scares me. And I'm not sure how much longer I'm willing to wait, I can see being stuck in this rut for quite some time with no true decision.

Hi all!
Just checking in.

Wallace: Things seem to be settling down for you. It's nice to have some piece in your life.

Eduard: Take smalls steps when dealing with your W so you can see what her real intentions are.

Avondale: How are things going?

Later.

Hey Y'all
I'll do the "check in" thing too, like Petvet. Nothing new here, which is why I haven't posted recently. I still surf the MB boards, and look on this thread, daily. So if anyone else has updates, don't be shy to post. It will give me something to read! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Eduard - Just went back and read your post (somehow it slipped past my radar, LOL). A true Plan A, while in action, is a humbling experience for the BS. I am NOT saying that's a bad thing, just wanted you to know that up front if you didn't already. It takes a certain amount of selflessness and abasement to do.
Have a great week!

<small>[ August 19, 2003, 07:08 AM: Message edited by: avondale25 ]</small>

Hi All,

Petvet... you spoke to soon... things started back up over the weekend and they are still rolling as I speak.

My OD Birthday was yesterday... it came and went like another day. Not one word out of her. My YD tried calling her, but evidently my OD wasn't home. So that pretty much concluded my OD Birthday from our end.

In addition... I had just finished helping my G/F move into her house. Got her washer and dryed moved into her laundry room and hooked up. Now while this was all going on... one her OS was upstairs sleeping in his room. Needless to say... he has not helped her in any way shape of form during this move... which really irritated me... to think that her son could be so thoughless. My G/F even moved all of his things up in his new bedroom for him... he didn't lift a finger.

Well soon after I finished hooking up the washing machine in her laundry room... the telephone rings and I decide to answer it... because my G/F had left the house on an errand and her kid was upstairs sleeping. I answered her phone... and guess who it was... her exH. Who has been calling there continuously.

Well when she came back I asked her if she asked him to quit calling so much... and in a very round about way... she acted like it was no big deal... even though I asked her to curb his calling unless it was something important or family related.

Well, I abruptly left her house and then called her... and we had a pretty good disagreement over the whole thing. So much so... I'm thinking about walking away from this relationship.

I would like some of your opinions on this if I could get it.

I am over reacting over her exH calling all the time. She say's it's nothing and not to let it get to me... and I say this guy is trying to interfer with our relationship... which in fact he is doing... otherwise we wouldn't be at the point we are right now.

Your opinions on this are appreciated.

Stay Strong!

Wallace

Hi Everyone,

Well, yesterday was the court session, the hearing officer/judge was listening this time and agreeing with me, not the same one I had last time in June but the one I had in Feb 2003. Exw was stretching a few things but not to bad.

Hearing Off wouldn't make a decision during session but will send us her decision via mail in about 2 weeks......So here I wait.

Things went good and no matter what the outcome, I'm ok with it since it's almost over.

Exw called me 15 mins at home after session and blasted me for challenging the courts errors,she was at work, then she said I need to get something out of my car, I'll call you back, then she calls me back while she's in her car and really lets me have it, she cussed me out, tried to throw guilt trips on me, accused me of this and that because I had to bring up the issues about the multiple affairs during the session that caused me to become unemployed regarding this arreage issue. Then she was so mad she said "I'm going to end all this child support stuff I'm so sick of this court stuff and I'll even help you end it so you won't have to pay a dime!'...she hung up

All I could think was about Judas, as soon the court session was over with Jesus, he no longer wanted the money and threw it down, his power was gone.

she calls back and i tell her,
I said I don't have any problem with ongoing CS it's only the arrears I'm trying to fix...She said 'Oh'?, then started adding numbers up on her calculator....I said if you see I should be done...she then said I guess you're right....Then she wanted to settle on other minor issues.

I brought up the issue to the hearing off about exw's contempt of court error, she said she wasn't touching it but we need to resolve it ourselves, so we left the original order as it was which put exw in the wrong, so that was that, exw paid me back the money.

What was odd was, when exw called she also cried like she had been defeated?, she sounded like her life was coming apart, she used to bring up OM to try and make me jealous or something, yesterday she made no reference to him and acted like he was none existent, though if she was alone? A friend of mine thought she was doing the detachment thing from OM, it's what a spouse does long before they actually leave the relationship.......Time will tell...

Wallace -

On your issue, just remember just because people divorce don't mean they don't become friends afterwards, especially a husband and wife who were once best friends for life...Your GF and her ex-husband will mostlikely be friends...He'll be part of the picture for life, however it's possible he may have realized who he lost and is trying to make a come back...I'm sure you messed him up by answering the phone it may have added more drive to his fire or discouraged him, but your GF is innocent. I'm sure he's consumed with trying to figure out who you are.

You need to make sure you know why they DV'd because if it was of a temporal resolvable issue peoples hearts do change and forgivness changes everything of what seemed immpossible..

That's why this word applies to a WS male or female, they later try to return to the spouse they left and you get caught in the middle...

Hosea 2

7 And she shall follow after her lovers, but she shall not overtake them; and she shall seek them, but shall not find them: then shall she say, I will go and return to my first husband; for then was it better with me than now.

Take care

Well guys, when it rains it pours! No posts for days, and now Wallace and EC both have SITUATIONS to ponder <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Wallace - How old is her son? If he's older than 12 (or even younger) he should be MADE to assist in the move if he's going to benefit by living in the new house! The fact that she didn't make him should tell you something about both her and her son. I believe you said in a previous post that your G/F's exH said he wanted to reconcile (?). As long as she does NOT tell him in no uncertain terms to stop calling unless it's child-related (and even then, you said they all have cells so there's really NO reason to call HER at all, is there?), he will continue to call. Why won't she tell him what you asked? Is it because she wants to "hedge her bets" to keep both you and her exh in the picture - so if one of you doesn't work out, there is still the other to give her attention? Hmmm....we've said all this before <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> I hope you aren't being played, Wallace, because you deserve so much better than that! Obviously my opinion is not as generous towards G/F and her exH as EC's comment was... maybe the difference is the male/female perspective, LOL.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I am over reacting over her exH calling all the time. She say's it's nothing and not to let it get to me... and I say this guy is trying to interfer with our relationship... which in fact he is doing... otherwise we wouldn't be at the point we are right now. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You're right...and IMHO it's not over-reacting. So make a decision!

EC - I'm so glad your court session is over.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Things went good and no matter what the outcome, I'm ok with it since it's almost over. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That's a great attitude! Your exW's phone calls are confusing, aren't they? I think your insight might be right, maybe her personal life is coming apart and she is feeling the effects of it. Were any comments made about your daughters when you talked to her? Do they know of these latest developments?

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the input on this EC, and avondale... it is appreciated.

I was going to get back sooner... but for some reason I seem to be going on something just about everyday... and it's not by design, it just happens.

I agree with what you both posted as it is almost a border line Catch-22 situation.

I took my G/F out to dinner the other night and we sat down and decided that this situation needs to be handled concerning the exH calling all the time. She agreed with me that it is out of hand... and if it continues, (which she doesn't believe that it will... now that her exH knows that I'm capable of answering her telephone and blowing his cover), she said she would tell him to quit calling unless it's family related.

Make no mistake about it... he has been and still is trying to get back with his exW. She is fully aware of it, as well as myself... even her kids know about his attempts... because he told them all that he was going to attempt it... so I'm not just imagining this.

While we were at dinner... I basically told her that if it in fact keeps up... I was going to walk away from this relationship. I told her that I was not going to compete not only with her exH, but I wasn't going to compete against anybody... and if she couldn't accept that... then it was time to put an end to the relationship.

She assured me that she has not returned any of his telephone calls, and that she would never want to go back to the lies and deceit she had put up with for so many years while they were married (he is a serial cheater).

So long story short... we kissed and made up... hopefully to live happily ever after.

avondale... her twin sons are almost 20 years old and her yougest son is 15 yrs. old. The one 20 yr old who lives at home... attends school and works.
He is more than capable of helping out when she needs it. This is their second move in 6 months (and hopefully their last for awhile), and he has been worthless before, during and after all of this has transpired. That in essence is one of several reasons why I'm not in a big hurry to go out and get "M" right at the moment. I don't think I could stand watching her 20 yr. old just not help his Mom, and expect to be catered to... not while I'm around. My kids somewhat resent her son as well... they think along the lines as I do concerning him... so as you can see... their is some kid issues going here.

One last thing... after almost 1 year... I finally received my first CS check...

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!

The Child Support Enforcement had to go to my exW's employer and garnish her wages... so it may get interesting. My exW loves her money... so we will see how long this lasts. She will probably jump jobs... but she has one problem... her apartment is part of her pay as an apartment manager... so that just might slow her down for a little while.

EC...

I'm so glad to hear that your CS issues are finally winding down, and heading in a positive direction for you. I'll bet your glad to see it winding down as well.

Do you think that your exW is starting to remove herself from the relationship she is in now?

Have you heard from either of your daughters lately?

avondale...

LOL... just when you thought it was safe to go out side... Petvet and myself kick in.

I think for most of us... our trials and tribulations are far from over... thanks for being here.

How are you making out?

relady...

Are you still on vacation, or are you as busy as I have been? Let us know when you get a chance.

Petvet...

I don't think your on vacation... how's your situation going.

Well.. everyone have a great day.

Stay Strong!

Wallace

Hi Gang......

Nothing new happening new here....Just dropping a line to hello...

I have a question...Do you think there was a tidal wave of affairs from 2000-2002 in the US? I ask because it seems many came here all at once, but it seems to have slowed down somewhat on new cases that come here...Do you think what Bill Clinton did made an effect on society? Not trying blame Bill C people are adults and have to make there own choices, so what you think?

Wallace - Do I think my exw is doing the detach thing? Not sure but I do know the fire is gone way down and reallity has set in....My thought is this? What reason do they have to be faithful? They aren't married and neither is committed and the relationship was brought together from deceit, do I expect it to last? No....My exw is tarzan the woman...she's going to swing to the next relationship once she dumps him just like she swung out of our relationship, but she'll crush him in the process, but what can you say? he deserves it....you reap what you sow...

PS 5

For there is no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part is very wickedness; their throat is an open sepulchre; they flatter with their tongue.

One thing I thought about through all this was, I should have stayed away further from exww and her OM and there attacks because, they provoke you to anger and can cause you to become more wounded and possibly bitter and loose your joy...Why be like them?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Proverbs 22:24-25
24 Make no friendship with an angry man <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> ; and with a furious man <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> thou shalt not go: 25 Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul.

Today is a new day in making new discoveries, a day never lived in before, Oh lord thank you we made it! Wash us afresh, wash us anew, renew our hearts with a new love for you. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

The eyes <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> of the LORD are upon <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" />

Take Care

Hi All,

Well it's that time of the week again... time to start winding down from work.

EC...

I really like the way you reference scripture and apply the Word to all of our daily lives... it is refreshing and uplifting.

By the sounds of it... it does sound like your exW's relationship is falling off with the OM at this point in time. In the situations that they have going... you never know what to expect though.

To give you my opinion on what appears to have been an explosion of extramarital affairs in the last several years... I think personally it's at epidemic proportions... even still today. The last static I saw on this (and I can't recall who gathered the information), was that in 80% of all marriages at least one of the spouses has been unfaithful at least one or more times during the course of the marriage... that's sad!!!

Concerning Old Bill himself... IMHO, I don't think Clinton did anyone any favors in the ethics and morality department... but that's not for me to judge.

It's the old saying, "What goes around comes around", and I think that will hold true with him as well as our exspouses... only time will tell.

Well everyone have a great weekend.

Stay Strong!

Wallace

<small>[ August 22, 2003, 05:34 PM: Message edited by: Wallace ]</small>

Happy Monday!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Well my weekend was pretty quite...

In 2 weeks I'm going to treat myself to the circus and be a kid again..Then late Sept I'm going to go see Don Knotts in a dinner theater play...Oh boy what fun.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

No date, just me...

Wallace - That's great on getting the CS...I tell you what, I know it stings and believe me she feels it daily...It's a constant reminder every pay period especially if you're single...Not so much an impact if you're married....I'm sure it's sobering...As I say, I'm all for doing what's right whether a man pays CS or a woman....However the choice should be given to the other party to pay it voluntarily before the court gets involved in which you did.....In my case my exww was just plain greedy, it was if she had nothing because it goes right through her hands like water....

Avondale - I haven't spoken to D's yet....Since the judge hasn't made a decision yet things are up in the air...

Did you have a nice weekend? Hope things are going ok with you....You're going to make it through this, just stay focused and faint not...

Me: One thing I learned this weekend in studying was that when Paul was taken to court in Acts 24, he constantly said to them if you accuse me 'Prove' your case and cause against me....

When he was taken before the judge he stated his position and the judge yelled at him in a loud voice " You are Crazy!!" Paul said no I'm not...

Anyway I could relate and once again they were ruling in error against Paul and bouncing Paul around like a hot potato...I could relate to that also because each court case hearing with me they played tag you're it, a different one each time, the one that made the error jumps ship and gives you back to the previous person....Then they change the case hearing to 'Relief from Judgment' meaning, we find no fault with this man...but we'll see soon I'm sure they're digging for a loophole, what court systems wants to admit they messed up? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> Especially 4 times in a row...

Take Care

Hi All,

EC...

Ahhhh yes... Happy Monday... LOL.

Thanks for the congrats on finally getting the CS from exW. It probably does sting when it comes around on her payday... but I guess she should of been a responsible parent.

Maybe we could of worked something out instead of having to go down the road that she chose to go down. She always had to do everything the hard way it seems... and it doesn't appear that part of her has changed.

I may not have mentioned it... but my exW got "M' to the guy she was having an affair with while we were "M". I don't know when she got "M", I found out some time ago from my OD the last time I spoke to her, which was shortly after FATHER'S DAY.

I personally look for my exW to quit her job and either stop working all together... or try to find a new job. She doesn't like to pay for anything... she has always been the taker... not much on the giving side... so we will see how this all plays out.

Your going to see Don Knotts... I love Don knotts.

I thought he was at his best in the Andy Griffith Show, as well as that one animated movie... "The Incredible Mr. Lippet", or something like that.

Let us know how it all turns out.

Anyone wonder what Petvet is up to? We haven't heard anything from him... so hopefully that's a good sign.

Well everyone have a good day today.

Stay Strong!

Wallace

Hey guys (and Relady if you're still around),

EC - You are brave to go to the circus and a show by yourself. Don't forget I live in Mayberry-land so I know all about Don Knotts! I couldn't go to places like that by myself (although I am now able to eat at nice restaurants alone) because the outings you mentioned are more involved than a sit-down dinner. So I treated myself to tickets to a "Best of Broadway" series here, but purchased two tickets. I figured I'd take one of the kids or a friend (female, of course!) because I just couldn't go by myself. Plus, it's possible I'd run into H if he was playing in the orchestra and I don't want him to perceive me as a loser (going alone). I know I'm not a loser but I don't want him to have any reason to think so (since he probably already does, having left me, LOL). <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Wallace - What's your take on your exw's new husband? Do you think his family (assuming he has one) thinks it is strange that she doesn't interact with her own children? Is is possible that time she saw your YD at the grocery store that she had wanted to say something to her about getting married but chickened out? (I don't think I'll ever forget the mental image I had reading that recount of yours.) Has your g/f had more calls from her ex ?

Petvet - What's new with you?? Any more problems with son's talking to his mom about your life?

Relady - have you forsaken us? Even if nothing is going on, please check in.

Nothing new with me. Just waiting and my patience hasn't run out. You know, I wonder about DavePR and how his recovery is going. Do y'all ever think about that?

Hi All,

avondale...

I don't blame you for not wanting to go out all by yourself. I think that after a certain amount of time passes during your marriage that you become accustomed to being with someone (your spouse and/or kids) and it's only natural to not want to be going out alone. Don't look at it as you feel like a loser... it takes more courage to go it alone than it does to go with others.

Personally I think it shows that your strong enough to be out there in the cold cruel world and you in fact don't need anyone else (except the Lord of course) to enjoy life.

I use to say to my exW... that it's the little things in life that counts... and if you don't have anyone to share them with... then they really don't mean that much and ar not really that important. I still hold to that statement... and I will probably never change my feelings about that. So IMHO... it is better to share as many life experiences you have with whomever you so chose to do so, as long as it follows the Lord's Word.

I'll go certain places by myself... but I enjoy the company of my kids or my girlfriend or both when I'm out doing certain things... it's just a habit that I formed during all the yours of my marriage. I haven't found a need to change it as of yet... so I look at it from the standpoint... "if ain't broke... don't fix it".

My G/F and I have been talking... and we would like to take our little "City Slicker" selves... and find a home in the country after we get "M"... and "Mayberry" would be perfect.

I have been wanting to do that for some time now... but only time will tell.

Getting to my YD, and her seeing her Mom at the grocery store. My exW may have wanted to tell my YD that she got "M", but chickened out. I know my YD was really upset about the whole thing... and to this day... still is.

Concerning my exW's husband and his family, IMHO... I think my exW's new husband's family probably could care less about whether she sees her children or not. From what I've heard... this guy is basically a bottom feeder... with kids and an exW to boot. My YD told me that he looks like a bum... literally. So if he sees his kids at all... they just inherited one doozie of a stepmom.

Concerning my G/F's exH calling all the time still. I haven't asked her if he has been calling. She has not stated that he has or has not been calling... so we will see how this one plays out.

Petvet...

O.K. Petvet... if your having that much fun... let us in on it. We like to hear about the good times as well, not just the bad times...LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

relady...

Did you go back on vacation again? Let us know how you are doing when you get time.

I do wonder how Dave is doing... I'm assuming he is doing well... otherwise we would of probably of seen him back on the boards.

Well everyone have a nice day today.

Stay Strong!

Wallace