Hey! Where did you get the idea that pretty women and blonde women are dumb and have no sense of humor? Not fair. You know what? Attractive women can also be smart, generous, kind, etc. Being blonde would not automatically destroy all your good attributes.

Not that I’m advocating that you go blonde. But if you would like to be blonde, what’s stopping you? To hear you describe it, you’ve been beaten savagely with the ugly stick. Which I just don’t believe is true.

You gave your beauty away to your husband? How? Seriously. What beauty did you have that you don’t have anymore? Were you thinner? Well, if that’s a problem for you, what are you going to do about? But I assure you that big women do indeed get dates. Did your hair turn gray? If you don’t like it, then color it. If you like it, then find a style that’s flattering to gray hair. Gray haired women do indeed get dates. Are you really trying to tell me that your teeth were straighter 20 years ago, and marriage has made them crooked? No, I just don’t believe you. Are you unhappy with your appearance? What are you going to do about it? Or are you happy with your appearance and assuming it doesn’t meet men’s standards? In which case, I disagree with you.

What I’m doing a terrible job if saying is that I don’t think your physical appearance (the color of your hair, the width of your hips) is the reason you’re not getting appreciation from the opposite sex. Without knowing you and seeing you interact with others, I can’t say what’s really going on. But I’ll throw out a few possibilities:
· You’re not making the most of what you got
· You don’t engage men on a woman-to-man basis
· You’ve forgotten how to flirt
· You’re trying to attract the wrong men
· ????

Are you really looking for reward in the romantic realm for your efforts as a mother and wife? Why? Stop. You’re cool, funny, smart? Who have you told (besides us)? Are you telling the right people? Are you telling anyone?

One thing that comes across is you’re waiting for someone to “notice” you. But it doesn’t work that way. If you want to get back into the dating world again, you need something very essential. It’s the same thing you counsel others about when they want to fix their marriage. Do you know what I’m referring to? Sure you do. It begins with a “P”. So what’s yours? Post it, and your friends can help you refine it to be a “p” that you’re comfortable with and maybe even excited to carry out.

One additional thought. I have a friend who is a little overweight, but nicely dressed and neatly coifed, with a very sunny disposition, a great sense of humor, and many varied interests. She didn’t date for years. Not even when she set a new years resolution to have sex before the year was up. In discussing the matter with friends, she came to understand that although she met plenty of men, she never gave off an “available” vibe. She was still funny and nice, but always sufficiently distant to communicate “I’m not looking. Don’t consider me as potential date material.” It’s something that she had to work on. But once she was sensitized to it, she began to get dates. Could something like that be happening with you?

I hope I haven’t offended you. I don’t think I’ve used this sort of 2X4 before. But I just think you’re laying the blame for your loneliness at the feet of the wrong mountains. Start considering what’s really going on here, consult your friends for objective input, devise your you-know-what (begins with a “p”), and get out there!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by *seekingjoy*:
[QB] So - Next time you buy a pair of sweat pants, have 'em print BEAUTY IS SKIN DEEP on the butt side of them - and see what happens. It's in the ATTITUDE.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">See this is why I loves ya! I was actually thinking of getting a tatoo that says: "Beautiful in the INSIDE!" heehee.

Here's one funny thing that came of your post, Jan. I actually went to look, and I only own ONE pair of sweats (cute teal blue ones too), and this is a throw-over from the ex. Sweats were too "schlubby" (isn't that a good word?), so I was not "allowed" to wear them. Over the years, I got used to not wearing any. You can not IMAGINE how fun it was this year to wear my Bronco jersey and sweats on Sunday afternoons and watch the football game! I NEVER got to dress that down, and of my own accord, I really like dressing nice (not always "dressed up" but nice outfits)--but still. As it says in Ecclesiastes, there is a time for everything, and everything in it's season.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And GIRL, I've met you, I know you can HAVE attitude. Get a load of it - and do something fun for you!!!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Oh my! I had a b*ttload of attitude, but then I set it on FIRE! Rats!!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> We could always start a singles group and call it ---

Women without skinny waistlines have boobs too!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">NO KIDDING!! Okay, I agree. There have got to be hundred and thousands of us out there who are built like goddesses without skinny waistlines. We could revolutionize the dating scene in the Rocky Mountain Region!!


CJ

CJ ---

There are times when I wish I was a stunning Barbie Doll type too - but then I wouldn't be ME.

I think I prefer the depth of personality to the shallowness of beauty.

I want a man with some substance who stands for something. Someone I can cling to when times get rough - and know he's gonna be there - because he loves *me* NOT my short skirt and shoe size.

We could always start a singles night at Roos for all the local cuties with attitude. Maybe we'll all buy designer sweats (the cheap variety) and have Roos Girls tattooed across the back side of 'em...

I like those afternoons of dressdown time too. I never owned a pair of sweats until my ex left. Boy was that ever an adventure in new attitude... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

I love those sweats now - but I still have trouble dressing down THAT much... Jeans and a Tee are my comfort clothes... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Jan

curious53,

I'm not going to directly quote your post, because that would be too long--so I'll just reply to it in a general way.

First--I don't think attractive women or blonde women are dumb or unkind, so if I came across that way, I apologize. As I wrote on another thread, when I think of all the women I love and feel warmly toward, their body-types and ages and hair-colors have nothing to do with it.

Second--of course you have a point that there is some rustiness about flirting and "working it" because those skills were aimed only at one man while I was married and that neuropathway became pretty well-established (flirting=XXXX). This is literally rewiring that I am working on doing in my head.

Third--the beauty I gave to my husband is the beauty one has in their youth. Okay...there are different life cycles that women go through: childhood, youth, mother, wise-woman. Well, the youth part has the firm skin, the fuller lips, the perkier protrusions (heehee), the more vigorous physical bod! This was given as a gift to my husband in the understanding that as the mother and wise-woman cycles came around there would be recognition of the beauty of THOSE stages with maybe fond memories of the youth phase. At this time, I am in the perfect height of my nurturer/mother cycle and have beauty appropriate to that time of my life...but DARN! No one here to notice!!

Finally--I am not trying to "blame" anyone for the fact that I felt lonely. I'm claiming it--I felt lonely. I'm frustrated that it seems like so many men go for the "shiny" window dressing and miss the shop with real content because they never look! I'm wrestling with figuring out how "sexy" I want to come across (what am I comfortable with) and balancing that with resentment for being looked at as a sexual object. I have a "p" and step one of the "p" is to actually GO to a couple singles events and acutally GO on a couple of dates (practice kinda) and so far, I am shocked to discover how much is based on and judged on APPEARANCE.

RapidFire Romance--online dating personals--mixers--classes. Yep, I think I'm doing some of the right "movements." Date #1, nice guy a little older than me...we talked for FOREVER, hugged and even kissed once--he never called back. I figured "oh well--not meant to be." Date #2--online match. We got along great via email and exchanged photos...so far, so good. Then he got all secretive and controlling and I figured out that his "ex" was really a "stbx" who was still living at home!! NO WAY I'm touching that one! Date #3--much younger man I totally liked and we just went out for fun. Turned out we got along great because I have a pretty young outlook on life, but he's in a different place in his life than I am (way different) so that didn't work out but we still like each other to this day. Date #4--a guy my age, a professional, someone I totally liked and "he wasn't ready." Rats! Bad timing. Date #5--another guy I totally liked whose head was on a swivel. Date #6--Buddy date. This guy wanted to know how to catch the girl he REALLY liked and only asked me out so he could ask me. SIGH.

Okay...I do see the obvious here--that none of these dates didn't work out directly because of "looks". But it feels like there were so many times when I never even GOT to the date because they don't look beyond the exterior!!

Like I wrote to singleguy over on the Prayer Request forum, you don't expect ME to change, do you? Wouldn't it be easier to change ALL the men and the entire definition of beauty in the American culture??

(heehee-- <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> )


CJ

CJ,

You have mail....and I hope that you are feeling better......let me know what is going on...ok?


GB

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">RapidFire Romance--online dating personals--mixers--classes. Yep, I think I'm doing some of the right "movements." Date #1...Date #6 </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Doesn't sound like you're being totally ignored. You only have at least 24 more to go <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> To quote Dr. Harley, from here "My standard advice to singles is to date at least 30 people before marriage." I'm thinking that what you really want is not to turn lots of heads, but to find one person who will cherish you--and you only have to do that once.

Seriously, though right now you're not getting your needs met, you have an opportunity to get it right the second time around. Many of us were so needy that we didn't make wise choices the first time. You're lots wiser now. If you can learn to enjoy the process and be patient I bet you'll find someone who makes you glad that you took the time to find him.

No longer out of things to say,

Steve

<small>[ June 24, 2004, 01:31 AM: Message edited by: StillHers ]</small>

30 Dates??? COOL! I'm ready to get married!

Anyone know who it is I'm supposed ta marry? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

<sigh> If only I could find him... Do have a meet for coffee this am though, could be interesting!

Never meant to imply you were frumpy in any way dear, wouldn't have winked if you were!

My Mom is hot. <shudder> Well, she is. And she is constantly tossing out the clothes (Purple Heart not gbage) and never leaves the house w/out a do and lippystick.

OK, off to the sadist... hopefully will not be tortured mercilessly.

E

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> ....and oh, not 18. 30! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by FaithfulWife:
<strong> curious53,

Like I wrote to singleguy over on the Prayer Request forum, you don't expect ME to change, do you? Wouldn't it be easier to change ALL the men and the entire definition of beauty in the American culture??

(heehee-- <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> )


CJ </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Ummm I vote for this, change all men. Men should see inner beauty or at least be able to focus above her chest level. Men talk to the face, not the boobs. Or should I have said, "Boys" talk to the face, not the boobs."

Faith, you just have to seperate the boys from the men. They all look alike, so you will have to date both. The man are hard to find, so expect to look for awhile.

And I can see we have a few "MEN" that posted. How nice to see.

struggling...Laura

Why you don't even have to be good looking to get the love you want (not saying we AREN'T good looking though LOL):

http://www.lovetactics.com/articles/rich1.html

BTW, the "Butt on fire" description just mankes me think of Jimmy Hendrix singing "Let me stand next to your fire" LOL (and I don't think he was referring to the woman's appearance either...)

I am extremely flat chested. Extremely. So a whole lot of men wouldn't consider me "hot." On the other hand, I've never had to put up with men staring at my chest. Instead, men often automatically considered me a great "chum" (in the friend sense, not the fish bait sense -- I think). But there are always a few who find this titless wonder somewhat attractive.

Hey.. I'm all about inner-beauty!!! But, I don't think we'd be talking about the same thing right there! ROFL. Sorry, couldn't resist butting in on that!

BTW...the title to this thread makes me laugh every time I read it, EVERY TIME.

Wow 6 dates... that is like a lifetime of dating. Your definitely not as bad as you seem to be making things out as.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by deadtoitall:
<strong> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> ....and oh, not 18. 30! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">RATS! Because 30 does not go into 42 nearly as often ast 18 does! HAHAHA <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

RIGHT back atcha!!


CJ

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by *seekingjoy*:
<strong> We could always start a singles night at Roos for all the local cuties with attitude. Maybe we'll all buy designer sweats (the cheap variety) and have Roos Girls tattooed across the back side of 'em... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The first meeting of the Roos Girls will officially be called to order on Friday, July 9th--shall we say at about 7pm? haha

I think powder blue sweats with white side stripes and Roos Girls tatoo-ed in white shall be our OFFICIAL uniform.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />


CJ

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by StillHers:
<strong> You only have at least 24 more to go <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> To quote Dr. Harley, "My standard advice to singles is to date at least 30 people before marriage."

No longer out of things to say,

Steve </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">OH MY LORD! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> That means, at the rate of 6 dates per year, I'll be ready to wisely marry in only FOUR YEARS!!

I think I'm going to faint!


CJ

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by curious53:
<strong> I am extremely flat chested. Extremely. So a whole lot of men wouldn't consider me "hot." On the other hand, I've never had to put up with men staring at my chest. Instead, men often automatically considered me a great "chum" (in the friend sense, not the fish bait sense -- I think). But there are always a few who find this titless wonder somewhat attractive. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I want you to know that I'm with the French on only one matter and that is breast size. The perfect breast fits in a champagne glass. Any more and it is too much.

Now for something completely gross to me!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5305332642

Some of the guys at the office like the merchandise. Me, I was just plain scared.

Tony

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by meremortal:
<strong> Why you don't even have to be good looking to get the love you want (not saying we AREN'T good looking though LOL):

http://www.lovetactics.com/articles/rich1.html

BTW, the "Butt on fire" description just mankes me think of Jimmy Hendrix singing "Let me stand next to your fire" LOL (and I don't think he was referring to the woman's appearance either...) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Oh, meremortal, you are one twisted individual! Jimmy Hendrix I totally understand, but the jump to CHUCK WOLERY is just too much! He's just too super slick! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

When Jimmy was singing "Let me stand next too your fire" I think he was thinking about what Jim Morrison was saying when he sang, "Break on through to the other side..."


CJ

Ok Faithful...Now this is completely loving and is sent to you via a REAL blonde...

There is NOTHING WRONG with taking care of you. Heck, after what we've been thru, it's like heaven. I remember the sweat thing too. Being so depressed that I'd live in scrubs and sweats. Id work and wear scrubs come home and don my sweats. Pull hair up into a ponytail and never makeup. Never, never never!

Then I had a slight break...that came when my best friend sent me the movie "legally blonde". She called me and said it was on its way. That I reminded her of Elle in the movie....but BEFORE I ALLOWED A VERY BAD MAN TO WEAR ME DOWN. And mostly, make me dislike who I was. Made me feel ugly and stupid and inferior.

I watched and saw a bit of the old me. Immediately made appointment after that cold reality check. I was living in relationship hell at the time. Purgatory. Separated and in a drawn out divorce and working like heck to make ends meet. It dawned on me this time last year that I'd best get it together or else time will just keep ticking and I will just let another year pass me by...Then after I started doing the little things..(manicures, going to actually get my hair cut professionally, every two or three months actually buying real clothes), the old me began to return. I started working out again too. Then suddenly I got happy. Really happy. Sure, I had very little money. Still don't have much but making ends meet alot better though.

I realized that I liked myself. I had regained self esteem and was back to the old me. Ultimate revenge came when I was at a soccer game for my son last year and x walked by me and talked to me during the game. Family Values was down the field and hiding (she was pretending that nobody knew she was pregnant)...I looked pretty darn good that day and it was rather obvious. He says in an aside to me "why did you buy that tshirt? Since when did YOU wear cropped t shirts? And that will give the guy with you (just a friend) wierd signals...Or are you still miss morality or is that something that's gone now?"

He he he. Yea, sweet I know. But I am happier than ever. And funny thing was the whole re-makeover of me made me happy with ME and content with ME and I spent the whole year with my son and just healing. When the D went thru finally, I was like a butterfly. Am still. It's cool.

So there's nothing wrong with going blonde..or red..or black. If it makes you feel good and enhances your complexion imho. And there's nothing wrong with getting a makeover either. As long as you do it for self esteem and it doesn't rule you (aka vanity). And that the primary goal isn't to get a dude.

It's funny, but when you get it (who you are now)and embrace it (life again), they will come!

I am serious. Attitude is everything. E. Wilkie is soooo right! But it doesn't hurt to be the best YOU you can be. That's all I am saying.

And I can attest to you that there is nothing wrong with my being blonde, or the fact that when I first discovered Jethro sneaking around I went out and waged surgical warfare and made an incredible purchase, or that I occasionally get a manicure, go jogging, or buy an outfit every three months or so...that anything is wrong.

Life is good. And it comes from within. But polishing up the package isn't wrong either.

And the thirty date thing? Gosh. I am on the four year plan too I guess. Although I've already gone on five dates this year. Does dating the same person six or more times count towards the 30 rule? I dunno.

Oh...here's a gem from my conversation today with RR, the cute medical professional I am seeing now..."Yea, I've got to go pick up Dan and we're off to do the bachelor party tonight. I really miss you and want to say that I am darn lucky. I don't care what kinda woman pops outta a cake or whatever I see this evening that there is NO substitute for a REAL woman...one who happens to be pretty and pretty darn smart as well. I used to think before meeting YOU that a girl couldn't really be pretty and be a blonde...Yea, the stereotype used to really make me think to subtract at least 30 iq points but now I know better. Can I call you when I get in? It could be kinda late."

See? Real men want REAL WOMEN. Real women want REAL MEN. Works both ways. And guys, just because there's slightly a little bit of a numbers advantage on your side in the dating pool, don't think that you can go slacking around in sweats or the same beer-stained, pizza stained tshirt and boxer shorts and not look somewhat cute.

It's time to wage war with the twentysomethings of the world! Cool chicks over thirty unite! We shall overcome! Hit me with your best shot! We are the champions! I will stop or else I will start quoting more cheesy eighties' songs that give away the fact I am a hair past thirty ok? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

So the perfect size for a breast is when it will fit into a champagne glass. I assume you mean the short wide ones not the flutes which are currently recommended because they give your champagne a longer 'life' once poured.

And as for the Jimi Hendrix comment....What about Jose Feliciano, "Come on Baby, light my fire. Gotta set the night on fire....light my fire, light my fire."

In the 5+ years I've been divorced, I've had 2 local men ask me out. What's with that? (Have an edit here: one of them responded to a free personal ad I had posted in a local paper. Maybe he doesn't count.) Hmmmm, it does make one wonder.

Although, 3 years ago, I did actually turn heads. Too bad that was 15 pounds ago. Walked through a restaurant in a short, low-cut red dress and did see heads turn. My date was behind me and he saw it too. And we walked all the way across the restaurant - to the far side. The manager came over to our table twice and thanked us for looking so nice. (Everyone else had on shorts and t-shirts. It was a holiday weekend.)

<small>[ June 26, 2004, 11:55 AM: Message edited by: cinderella ]</small>

Hmm. There are a lot factors at play here, I think.

Let's start with what kind of women men find attractive. Unfortunately, I can only really offer my own experience, and that is severely limited. To make matters worse, both of the women in whom I have ever developed a serious romantic interest have been very beautiful (and have matched my own personal aesthetic, which would only agree with the French if their champagne glasses are on the small side). Thus, it may be hypocritical of me to claim that physical beauty is not terribly important. Nonetheless, I offer a couple of anecdotes...

I remember the first time I saw my ex-wife. We were in the same college class, and as I walked into that classroom on the first day, I surveyed the room as was my custom, noted that she was the cutest girl in the glass, and thought nothing more about it.

That's data point one. It reveals that, all else being equal, a physically attractive woman has an advantage when it comes to drawing the attention of a man (at least this man).

Months later, after I had gotten to know this girl and I began to realize that I found her attractive, I remember walking across campus trying to call to mind her figure, in order to see whether it matched my long-standing personal aesthetic preferences. I discovered that I couldn't really remember what her figure was like - despite having seen her most days of the week for the last few months! I had to make a mental note to myself to check her out the next time I saw her. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

That's data point two. It reveals that, once a woman has a man's attention, her looks may recede into the background, in terms of what he finds attractive about her.

I also remember the first time I met the woman who has now drawn my unreturned interest. She struck up a conversation with me while we were both waiting around for something, and I remember driving away from that encounter thinking to myself "Wow. That's quite a girl." Mind you, I was not thinking about her romantically at the time (I was still very much focused on my wife and my marriage, despite the fact that my wife had not spoken to me for over a year and had filed for divorce.) Ironically, I thought about this woman fairly frequently, because I added her to my prayer list, and I remembered the impression she had made on me, but I completely forgot what she looked like. The next time we met, more than a year later, I didn't realize who she was until I heard her name again.

That's data point three. It reveals that a powerful impression can be made quickly, irrespective of looks.

As I got to know this woman, the idea of a romantic relationship never crossed my mind. It wasn't until I started to look for the possible meaning behind an odd series of coincidences involving her that I realized she seemed to be exactly the sort of woman I would find attractive in that way. From there a massive infatuation developed very quickly and grew into a genuine deep attraction.

That's data point four. It reveals that the potential for romantic attraction may be there, but that unless circumstances and mindset are conducive for its development, the potential may not lead anywhere.

Which brings us to another matter: the projection of availability, or lack thereof, which curious53 mentioned. I think there's probably something to this idea. CJ, do men tend to think of you as a "buddy" because that's how you act with them? Like you're "just" a buddy? I don't know. I may have this "problem" myself, as I have quite a few women friends but have never detected any romantic interest in any of them. (Of course, I don't have any romantic interest in any of them either, although I do have a bit of a crush on some of them.)

Makeup may be part of it. Although I personally prefer the understated-makeup look, a woman who doesn't wear makeup sort of transmits an "I'm not interested" message on the romance wavelength. What else is involved...I don't know.

Like I said, my experience is severely limited.

But I really do believe that where physical attractiveness is concerned, projecting an "I care about my appearance" vibe is more important than embodying an "I am a Barbie doll" image.