Hello all,<P>I am here to announce that a few members have been banned from the Marriage Builders Forum (Lurking Woman, LesW, and A BW's OW). Several attempts were made to warn them about their behavior on this forum. However, they did not take the warnings seriously. It pains me whenever I am forced to do this. <P>I am clearly aware of the raw emotion that accompanies most issues on the Marriage Builders Forum. Many enter this place hurting badly and have difficulty expressing them self in a constructive way. Although some initial latitude may be granted, it needs to be understood that continued and directed disrespect will not be tolerated.<P>Thanks to all that have tried to step in. Also, thank you for letting the Moderators know about the recent problems. Your concerns are always taken seriously and acted upon.<P>As I have stated, the <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=agree" TARGET=_blank>Rules & Policies</A> of this forum must be followed.<P>God bless,<P>Steve<BR>

Thank you so very much! with love flowerseed

Steve,<P>Thanks for stepping in. I hate to see this measure taken as well---I would have hopde that anyone bothering to register here would have participated in a more constructive way. It's a shame that they did not.

Thanks Steve, at least I can feel safe again SOMEWHERE.<P>It's not sad as they were warned.<P>Debi<P>------------------<BR>Imagine....

I guess not, somebody crashed your safe heaven again.

Tipper-OW - Maybe they will get it that their opinions aren't everything that maybe they ought to understand that some of us out here don't believe their hate. End Censorship!

Steve, I am grateful you have stopped these people from posting, for I was very tired of their attacks, especially of late directed to me. I want to continue to come here as a safe haven and forum to grow and learn from, their banishment may let me do that.Thanks.

For all who may be concerned or confused by the "censorship" accusations:<P>This is a privately owned and operated forum, with clearly stated rules and policies. When a user signs up, he or she is agreeing to abide by the stated rules and policies. When those are violated, we give the user the benefit of the doubt and convey our concern about the rules and policies being broken. When a user continues to flout those rules and policies, stronger measures sometimes must be taken. As Steve has previously stated, it is NOT something we ever want to or like to do.<P>------------------<BR><B>Tempest</B>, Moderator<BR>Marriage Builders Infidelity Forums:<BR><I>General Questions II, Just Found Out...,<BR>Plan A/Plan B, In Recovery</I> <BR>and <I>Read-Only Posts</I>

Tempest, <P>I was just going to comment on the fact that you have to agree to the rules and policies to post here, and that there is no issue of censorship, due to the statements made in those rules and policies. In fact, it clearly states that you can delete, close, or remove posters for violating those rules and policies. I just wish there was more we could do.<P>Tigger

Thank you Mr. Harley!

<B>To all of the members of this forum</B><P>I just wanted to show up on this thread and let you know that I echo <B>Tempest's</B> post and that of <B>Steve Harley.</B><P>We are all watching this forum and working together to keep it the safe place you members had become accustom to and deserve.<P>Please do keep sending us your E-mails about your concerns of this forum. We are counting on you to keep us informed beyond our watchful eyes.<P>I commend you all for your help, you dedication to your marriages and families. The work and help done here is very important and by sticking together like a family unit we will be able to get things back to normal.<P>One of the best things you can do after alerting any of us as to what is going on here, is to <B>NOT respond to these people and their posts.</B> Just close your eyes and move on to the next one. I know of course this is hard, but we need to not feed into their agenda. <P>Again I thank the very special members of this forum for their help and cooperation in this matter.<P><B>A special note to Steve and Tempest</B><P>Thank you for your help in all of this. You involment and actions are something I am very grateful for. <P>------------------<BR><B>Xarelel</B><BR><I>Moderator of Pregnancy/Child Forum <BR>& CO-Moderator of Recovery Forum</I><p>[This message has been edited by Xarelel (edited May 02, 2001).]

Dear Mr. Harley,<P> It's nice to know you are intimately involved with this web site. You and this site are both first class!!<BR> <P> God bless you,<P><BR> <P>------------------<BR>Gregg

Yes but you have made biased statements about whether certain people are violating the rules. The so called "crashers" have not spewed hate. In fact they have been the ones against it. Yet many of the members spew hate and refer to women and children with names like ***** and [censored]. Those are the people that are actually breaking the rules of this site. But they aren't punished because they are riding the line and taking the easiest view point.

Thank you Mr. Harley, Tempest, and Xarelel. I understand you're point, and we're all doing what we can (short of breaking our fingers )<P>Anybody ever thought about installing a virtual punching bag?

I think about it like this, when I come to MB I leave the USA and enter *Harley Land* . The rules, laws and rights here are different than those at home. If I chose not to abide by the rules I can be deported. This board is owned and paid for by the Harleys and it is not a right for us to be here. We are guest and should act like we want guest to act in our home. I have made people leave my home for acting in ways that offended myself or my family and friends. If you go to a party and start insulting the other guests there your host has every right to eject you. MB is a place where people usually only come when they are already in pain and have had their lives turned upside down. It is wrong to try to cause those people more pain.<P>Those who have been banned and re-registered under different names should be aware that if they continue to abuse this (or any message board) they can be reported to their ISP, when you get internt service a part of the standard contract contains rules of conduct. If you are complained about your service can be cancelled by your provider.

1stAmend.rights,<P>You're right about this board. They only welcome the members with hateful attitude, anger and selfish desires. Its pretty obvious that if someone voice out an opinion opposite of how they feel, they either mock them or shut them away. <P>Only proves, their rules and policies are all crappy.<P><BR>

Tipper, 1stAmRts: Dumb question here but...Why do you care? If I knew of a place that had a bunch of hateful people and I wasn't welcome I just wouldn't go there. That said, why do you care? Is it something personal? Has someone attacked you personally? I seem to have missed alot of the comotion.<P>------------------<BR>1Co:2:4: And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:<BR>1Co:2:5: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.<p>[This message has been edited by Paul Moyers (edited May 03, 2001).]