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Can't stay on for detailed replies, but I did want to say that I think what you're all saying about K is nice. He seems to be a nice man who believes in what he's doing. I have respect for that.<P>As far as what I see as "success" - yes, I think that a saved, good, sexual marriage is a success. "Failure" to me is not having a marriage anymore. <P>I do appreciate what everyone is saying about their views of success and failure and all the labels we put on stuff around here. I think that this thread was good, and I thank each of you for your thoughts.<P>Thanks again for the replies. I bet this will die pretty soon. I've never seen this many replies before so I must have touched a nerve. It's good to think!<P>EB

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Thank you everyone, and forgive me for not replying to each of you alone. I'm too tired, too frustrated right now to think straight.<P>I am going to get a divorce. My h doesn't want to give up his OW, and at this point I don't care anymore. That's not true, I do care. But I can't fight for him anymore. <P>I appreciate what everyone has said, and I will never forget how wonderful you all are.<P>This is my last post.<P>Good luck to everyone who wants their marriage, which seems to be just about everyone except a few.<P>You are right. You are all successes as yourselves, with or without your spouses.<P>Bye, and thank you again for the good discussion.<P>EB

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