Hi All,<P> Well I'm back from my dinner date with W. I am still scratching my head as to the reason for the get together. <P> When all the fog lifts I would say that overall it wasn't to terrible. With just a couple of low points. <P> Well mainly one. The first thing WS did was attempt to goad me into an arguement by talking about things she knows lights my emotional fires. This or that about a part of her job where she gets a lot of attention from males. Just wanted to keep telling me about it.<P> I did not bite however. Only listened and kept my cool.<P> Only other thing was the lack of other conversation. Just small talk about nothing. Honestly I felt slightly uncomfortable. Not with being with W but that I too was unable to start up any quality conversation. <P> She does have a place to live already. I will be honest and say that knowing this really got to me. The address she had told me this morning was not the real one though. She got a place just a couple of houses down the street from me. <P> Kind of funny that she found something so close. Until I ask myself what will happen if OM starts coming around. She has said this won't happen. But who knows.<P> All in all the food was good, I was with the one I love, and I survived a tense couple of minutes. So it was Ok.<P> jd

jd,<P>Well, OK is better than bad. Did she show any affection? Sorry to hear about her finding a place to live, that's not good news, but not all bad. If she got a place down the street, this sounds like she wants to be close to you. Perhaps she doesn't want to give up? So, no conversation about future, getting to gether, kids anything?<P>How are you feeling?

Hey SEM,<P> No it was not bad, not great but maybe it is a start. Honestly I think she was as much at a loss for words as I was. I felt that with the exception of the work situation(which bothers me but may not have been meant to start a fight)she was affraid as I was to talk about anything that would totally ruin it. No talk about the kids, no talk of future or lack there of, no talk of getting together again. Upon dropping her off, I walked her to the door and told her I enjoyed just being with her for dinner. Then kissed her goodnight. <P> I could feel the tension right below the surface for us both. But we kept it in check.<P> jd

jd,<P>I too am at a loss for words. It sounds like maybe you were both wanting the other to say sorry, and I want you back. Maybe that was her intent for dinner, maybe she was hoping you would ask her back? I am trying here, I don't know, can you tell. KS thinks you should ask her out for dinner again and see how that goes. Maybe your initiation of the invite will put it on her?<P>Oh, I forgot, I'm down with the ICQ If your interested, we're not experienced chatters so we're a little reluctant. I still don't know how the whole thing works. My ICQ # is 130021507 if you ever want to chat. I got yours off the H2Y thread, but I didn't want to mess with it without a formal invite. <p>[This message has been edited by SEM (edited September 05, 2001).]

Hmmmm.... walking on eggshells... now what? All you can do is one day at a time and keep taking good care of yourself by letting go of the past. Start fresh and with a clean slate each day. Count your blessings and find the good because all things work together for the good...<P>Honestly, I can't believe that she REALLY wanted to leave because if that were the case, WHY move a few doors down? If I was really really trying to get away from someone, there is no way I would live on the same street.<P>I think SEM is right in his hunch about her sort of waiting to see of you would ask her back. I don't think her pride would allow her to beg you to come home... I could be wrong, but just my take considering everything...

Taking it one step at a time. Thought about asking if she would like to do something tonight, but she called awhile ago and needs me to come to her new place and fix a broken water pipe. Oh joy. Then I think one or two of the kids have after school practice(soccer football track). So I guess that will take precedence over that. <P> I guess I kind of made it sound like the dinner was not good. It was good, just a little unconfortable not being able to really talk about meaningful stuff. That is my fault because the only thing meaningful in my life for the last six months has been trying to fix our problems. Kinda makes everything else seem insignificant. Know what I mean.<P> Thanks for the encouragement and keep it coming.<P> jd

She's asking for "honey-do's?" Hmmmmm....<P>Doesn't sound to me like "once I'm out, that's it, I'm gone." I mean, if she wanted out of your life, she would not have moved down the street and she would NOT be asking you to come over and fix things. <P>Hearing this makes me smile. It makes me smile because her actions are not aligning with her words. I think she'll be home. Maybe she is the type of person who feels like what's done is done and no going back, but over time as you prove that your God is a God of second and third and fourth chances--however many chances needed--and He lives big on the inside of you, I think she'll come around...<P>It sort of sounds like she is trying to give herself what she deserves, you know, like punish herself? For some reason, that's what it seems like because she is not letting go of you. She has moved, but she hasn't let go.<P>If I wanted to get away from you, I would move for real! Getting a place down the street or even in the neighborhood is not suggesting exactly that I want to be away from you--whether there are kids or not!

Sounds like she's getting her instructions from the Mothership, alright. Classic WS fence sitting stuff. Keep doind what you're doing. Don't ask questions. Be cool.<P>WAT

Thanks Everyone,<P> I appreciate your thoughts.<P> jd