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Wow!
Well Marshall59 & Mrs.Marshall59, you have found the right place. Best of luck in your recovery, withdrawal, and overcoming resentment from the affair.<p>And I'm glad the OW is getting on with her life--which means she will quit sending you birthday gifts...<p>[ February 01, 2002: Message edited by: BINthereDUNthat ]</p>

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Lets hope............she DID sound a little vindictive earlier on............morepower to the MRS!!!!!!!!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] <p>Let OW LB him all the way out HER door!!!!!!!

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Marshall59,<p>RE: "I do think though that just because the OW was posting on TOW was not a reason to bring it here."<p>The reason it was brought here to MB was because the people who saw your posts here and her posts on gloryb immediately felt that they were being played for the fool. It was brought here to warn people to stay not be part of it all. We were protecting MB members from wasting time until we knew more of what is going on.<p>RE: " I wasn't in contact with her at that time and the commotion started by your bringing it here."<p>This is not correct AT ALL. Before anyone here mentioned that Marsh59 was posting on gloryb, she posted that she saw your posts here and had contacted you. It was that post that got people alarmed. By the time anyone mentioned anything here on MB you had already had more contact with her? that is by her words. Do not blame the members on MB for that contact. And further, she knew that you had not tossed the b-day present, even after you told us you had.<p>RE: "Please look at my posts and tell me if you see any evidence of encoded messages there. If you see that, then I apologize.."<p>It appeared to me that Marsha saw this thread, she contacted you and then posted on MB, then you started that thread Wife Tracks OW On-line. <p>You posted it in both the Recovery forum and here in the General Questions Forum. People responded to you. You never did go back and hold a dialogue with those who posted. You just wanted to get the message out.<p>And then you said... "The truth. Yes I posted here under this name so that the OW could see it. I honestly did not know if she was still lurking, as she made it clear to me some time before that she had to go on with her life. In hindsight and in truth, I'm not sure whether I wanted her to contact me again or for her to see that I was working on my marriage."<p>The truth is in the details. No you were not lying, it's just that I see the truth more clearly now. <p>Marshall I hope you and your wife will continue to post here. Please change user names your names and your story just enough so that people, especially OW, will not recognize you.<p>[ February 01, 2002: Message edited by: zorweb ]</p>

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zorweb,<p>You are right, and this is why I have stayed off this thread and will continue too. I am not wasting my time with peoples games...How do we even know there is a Marshall or a Marsha...<p>Perhaps TOW website owners is just drumming up controversy and business for their own website and cause and we are playing right into their hands...<p>I have no idea what's going on but it's a little too fishy and I am once again off this thread...<p>ANNA<p>[ February 01, 2002: Message edited by: Anna2000 ]</p>

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by zorweb:
The truth is in the details&#8230;&#8230; No you were not lying&#8230; it&#8217;s just that I see the truth more clearly now. <p>Marshall I hope you and your wife will continue to post here. Please change user names your names and your story just enough so that people, especially OW, will not recognize you.[/QB]<hr></blockquote><p>I know it's useless to try to convince you that you haven't correlated the dates/times to the events. So I won't bother. I don't need your kind of watchdog mentality, Zorweb.

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Marshall59,<p>One thing that a BS learns pretty quickly, is a technique used by many WS's. It's the one in which the BS brings out something that is bothering them? like finding some pretty clear proof of an affair or of a lie. The WS responds by accusing the BS of being jealous, nuts, crazy, or having a 'watchdog mentality'. The purpose of this approach is to put the BS off balance. And to make them wonder about their own sanity. It's a smoke screen.<p>RE: "I know it's useless to try to convince you that you haven't correlated the dates/times to the events. So I won't bother."<p>Yep Marshall don't bother because not only do I clearly recall the order of events, but I did correlate the dates/times of the events based on the date/time stamps of the MB and gloryb posts listed here. <p>
.....1/22/02 4:13 a.m.....Marshall59 started this thread<p>.....1/25/02 5:42 a.m.....Marshall59 starts the "wife tracks OW on-line" thread<p>.....1/25/02 7:57 p.m.....Marsha59 posts a olgjmj's thread in OW/OM Only forum of gloryb. She says thatshe has read Marshall's posts here on MB and that she has spoken to him. (Marsha77 on MB)<p>.....1/26/02 8:53 a.m.....Yeardly posts on this thread that she/he read Marsha's post on MB and wanted to warn MB'ers that something fishy was going on.<p>.....1/26/02 8:34 a.m.....Marsh59 starts the thread "tell me how to delete my posts" on gloryb (I attribute the time difference between this post and Yeardly's to the fact that each forum is on a different server. They are probably even in different states. But as I recall Marsha's post came a bit after Yeardly's. I do recall that she mentioned that she wanted them deleted because the folks at MB had caught on to what was going on? or some thing like that.<p>.....1/26/02.......Clarkie deletes the content of Marsha59's post on gloryb based on Marsha's request.<p>RE: "I don't need your kind of watchdog mentality"<p>Hmmm, guess it would bother you if someone is really paying attention to the sequence of events. My response it not about you at all. It is about keeping this a sane place where people do not play games with us. I am not 'watching you" I am attempting to protect my MB friends and myself from being sucked into these games. We look out for each other. Even your attempt to apologize here is riddled with twisted truths.<p>[ February 01, 2002: Message edited by: zorweb ]</p>

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The Games continue...<p>Jade31189
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Muse,<p>Thanks for starting this thread. I know you had me in mind when you started it. I appreciate that. <p>I read a lot of things that I NEEDED to read here. I would love to comment and share my opinions here, but I have to be VERY careful. My posts from these boards were copied and forwarded to my OM's wife. The last week and a half has been pure hell. It seems to get worse and worse each day. Each day it is something new. I don't want to get into here, but feel free to email me at Jade31189@hotmail.com if you want. I can only hope that the trouble making women from MB, or my OM's wife, doesn't figure out who I am. I should be saying xOM!<p>Jade

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Kira...<p>Who is playing games now? Why did you find it necessary to post my new note on MB? Wasn't it some of you who told me to go back to TOW and post there??? That is what I did! Do you see anybody from TOW coming over to MB and copying posts? I have the right to post whatever I want on TOW boards. Why do you feel like you have the right to copy them? You keep telling Marshall59 to change his name, and story a little bit, so that he can continue posting here. I did the same, but you had to start your games again. I really don't find it to amusing that you had to post my e-mail address over here. I have already gotten bombarded with e-mails. Don't bother writing anyone, I am just hitting delete without even reading them. So don't waste your time. <p>Couldn't you have left well enough alone? And why are you lurking over there??? Is your H's OW posting over there? If so, copy her posts, not mine. <p>Marsha

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Marshall59:
[QB]<p>I do think though that just because the OW was posting on TOW was not a reason to bring it here. <p>QB]<hr></blockquote><p>I see that I am not the only one who feels like you have no reason to bring my posts over here.

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"You keep telling Marshall59 to change his name, and story a little bit, so that he can continue posting here. I did the same,"<p>Marsha, Marsha, Marsha,<p>This is either a big joke or you have the IQ of a gnat. You didn't think that you would be recognized by what you posted???? <p>You announced who you were loud and clear. You wanted to be recognized.<p>Stop playing games. <p>I truly feel sorry for you. Get yourself into therapy. You need professional help.

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Oi! What a mess! As you know I am a BS and a complete supporter of this site! I have to agree that you had no business copying Marsha's post from another board and bringing it here. It just doesn't make any sense to do something like that. The tangled web that has been woven is not yours or anyone else's to tangle even more. How is doing something like that going to be helpful to anyone? Sorry Kira, I have to say you are completely out of line.
Please, please let's leave each board unto its own.

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Shame on you who went "hunting over to TOW, copied and pasted the things that people were posting there.

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<<<<<<<<<<<PLEASE STOP THIS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I HAVE STATED VERY LITTLE UP TO NOW!<p>But everyone seems to want to especially if they don't know all the details. <p> Enough is Enough! Please stop this insane "gossip,"and "tale bearing"<p>Marshall (MM), Marsha(OW) and I (BS) do have lives we are trying to restore. We don't want to read each other posts that are copied even if Marsha keep lurking why should you care. Even if we did want to see them, we would go over to TOW...(Just like Marsha comes over here to look!)
HOWEVER, We could care less. You are bringing more pain to our lives than support! Yes games were played...don't come down to that level anymore. We want it OVER PLEASE! Let the OW fade out which is where she should have been all along.
Let us concentrate on the restoration...
"LEAVE US ALONE AND CLOSE THE DISCUSSION AND LET US TRY TO RESTORE OUR LIVES!<p>Please no more comments on this just let it die.
This would be greatly appreaciated.<p>Speaking for MARSHALL59:
He will not make any more post to this site because he realizes that any further post will prolong the debate.<p> To ORCHID: we agree with you that all related post should be closed!<p> TO moderator MBMagnolia: Please do what you can to end these thread. Thank You
<<<<<<<<<<<PLEASE STOP THIS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>[/LIST]

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Frankly, no one should be telling anyone where they can and cannot post, or for what reason. If there's an issue it should be addressed to the board moderators and THEY will handle things as they see fit. I'm a little bit daunted by people telling other people that they cannot post. Anyone that wants to can post here for whatever reason, and if they violate the terms of service, they will be moderated or banned appropriately.

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