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weaver #1206023 03/05/07 02:28 PM
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Can you refinace to pull out the equity, if it doesn't sell soon? That might be an option if the kids can't wait for a couple of years.

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weaver:

My D and SIL won't be ready 2 buy any time soon. My SIL has higher standards than they can currently afford. But that's okay. Their business. We will keep looking in2 the possibility of re-investing in something they might want 2 own, though, and see what happens. Since our 2nd house is an investment property, we need 2 reinvest or pay capitol gains on the profit over the original purchase price.

So, if my kids aren't able 2 buy something when we sell the other house, we're looking in2 something like a cabin in the mountains, or some more property in the region around my W's OOSP.

But there's another option that I am seriously considering, but won't raise until after this house sells:

If my W can't agree 2 get rid of any and all reminders and connections 2 RM, I will offer 2 let her reinvest all of the profit from the house sale in2 her OOSP, and I will wait until we sell our primary residence 2 cash out my share.

She won't want 2 sell our house. Neither will the kids. I don't want 2 either, frankly. But I'm not excited about investing in something else if I'm not going 2 have a monogamous marriage. I'd rather be roommates for a few years, maybe even until I retire.

We are both done with my sister in law, though.

-ol' 2long

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So, if my kids aren't able 2 buy something when we sell the other house, we're looking in2 something like a cabin in the mountains, or some more property in the region around my W's OOSP.


Will you have to rent it out to make it a "like" investment to the one you sell?

I've taken a huge loss in profits for all the years my sis rented from me where as if I had sold when I moved out I would have pocketed a big equity...not now. She had just lost her house to fore closure though and was virtually homeless.

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We are both done with my sister in law, though.


Yes. Your W had you to lean on through this heart wrenching mess, I hope she appreciates this. I could not have gone through that alone and so have allowed myself to be taken advantage of too often by my sister. Had I been married with some support, things may have been different.

Who knows though.

As for your plan if your boundaries are not honored after the house sells...

I hope you don't have to wait that long. Guys are so patient. I might have that in my head, plan for it, be convinced of it and then WHAMMO, one night it would just explode out of me... probably in about a week or less. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Dunno whether we'll need 2 rent it out, versus buy a rental and not rent it out counts.

Will find out.

-ol' 2long

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huh?


"Never forget that your pain means nothing to a WS." ~Mulan

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WS: They are who they are.

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Is there rent control in LA?


"Never forget that your pain means nothing to a WS." ~Mulan

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WS: They are who they are.

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There is heinous rent control in LA.

I'll never be a landlord again. There's no reward. And with my sister in law, there's certainly no grati2de.

I'm hoping that we can get ourselves a cabin or something and rent it for short periods of time to friends and relatives, if we have 2 rent it at all.

-ol' 2long

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Weaver, how excited you sound! When do you move all the way in?

I'm gradually opening Ti up to the idea of getting some property out in the middle of nowhere.

Well, not nowhere. But close enough. Teeny schools, handful of streets, nice neighbors that work hard for their land and homes and enjoy life. I've grown weary, very weary of suburbia. I miss the majestic oaks and waterways of my youth. Swimming in cheerfully gurgling rivers. Picnics in the woods. Nature walks. Long, cool verandas where you can sit with friends, drink iced tea, and watch the sun set. You definitely can't get that where I live now.

Ti's commute won't be much (if any) worse than it is for him now; just a different direction. He's considering it, at least.

2Long, the thought of a quiet cabin somewhere gives me delightful chill bumps. I swear I'd live in a log cabin somewhere far away if I thought i could get away with it. As long as I could get online, that is. I need my internet connection!!! Mega-grocery stores be damned!


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We're going camping this coming weekend to a place we like to go in the spring.
These are photos of prior trips.

Our campsite in the desert -
www.outdooroutlet.com/SS/wpockets/camp10.jpg

Sunrise
www.outdooroutlet.com/SS/wpockets/catcus11.jpg

This was taken in 2005 when there was more rain - the flowers were out in the desert.
www.outdooroutlet.com/SS/wpockets/Flowers14.jpg

In some places there is a lot of native american rock art.
www.outdooroutlet.com/SS/wpockets/rockart13.jpg

Look in the highlighted area for the twins secret camping spot - you can see the top of their tent. This is a flat sandy spot that is easy to get to.
www.outdooroutlet.com/SS/wpockets/whitney_camp12.jpg

We leave Thursday Afternoon. Hopefully the weather will be nice. (meaning no wind.)

SLH, I hope you make the move. It doesn't hurt for life to move at a little slower pace.

2long, it is getting crowded here, but there are still lots of places close by where it is not. Just depends on what you want. My commute time to work has increased in recent years from 5 minutes to 7 minutes. I suppose I won't complain.

There are lots of nice cabin spots in the mountains close to OOSP.

Weaver, I tend to think you'll be happy no matter what. I think it comes from inside, not outside..... and you "got it."

Faithful,
Doesn't matter what he does. You "got it" too, and you know you do. You will make it........... and not JUST make it, you'll do well. Give it a little more time, and you'll see.


Gray, I have been thinking about your comments.
Maybe you just need someone to read to you.

The Day is Done

THE DAY is done, and the darkness
Falls from the wings of Night,
As a feather is wafted downward
From an eagle in his flight.

I see the lights of the village
Gleam through the rain and the mist,
And a feeling of sadness comes o'er me
That my soul cannot resist:

A feeling of sadness and longing,
That is not akin to pain,
And resembles sorrow only
As the mist resembles the rain.

Come, read to me some poem,
Some simple and heartfelt lay,
That shall soothe this restless feeling,
And banish the thoughts of day.

Not from the grand old masters,
Not from the bards sublime,
Whose distant footsteps echo
Through the corridors of Time.

For, like strains of martial music,
Their mighty thoughts suggest
Life's endless toil and endeavor;
And to-night I long for rest.

Read from some humbler poet,
Whose songs gushed from his heart,
As showers from the clouds of summer,
Or tears from the eyelids start;

Who, through long days of labor,
And nights devoid of ease,
Still heard in his soul the music
Of wonderful melodies.

Such songs have power to quiet
The restless pulse of care,
And come like the benediction
That follows after prayer.

Then read from the treasured volume
The poem of thy choice,
And lend to the rhyme of the poet
The beauty of thy voice.

And the night shall be filled with music,
And the cares, that infest the day,
Shall fold their tents, like the Arabs,
And as silently steal away.

~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow


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Ah, SS. I love camping in the desert.

I'm getting all excited looking at your pics.I sure wish we could join you.

Maybe one of these days?


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I love the desert too - October through March. It's iffy in June, July, and August, but we go to the mountains when it's hot.

Sure, one of these days. Love to have you.

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SS:

I tried 2 find listings for stuff out "that way", but realtor.com doesn't show much.

Any ideas where better?

I've thought of trying 2 buy the whole town of Modena. We like the old general store...

-ol' 2long

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It (Modena) was for sale a few years ago, but I don't think anyone took them up on it. You could probably still buy it. If you did, then advertised lots for sale in CA, you could probably get your investment back pretty fast.

I don't know where to look 2long, I haven't bought anything for over 15 years.

I could give you names of some places to check with if you want.

Maybe even web links.

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Evening campers.

Tuna casserole for dinner SS.

I have a craving.

Sue me.

We're going to see my 'rents next week and maybe do a little camping ourselves. Our first entire family va-ca (littles and all).

(le sigh)


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I eat most things....... but I have an aversion to Tuna casserole.

Oh, if I am at someone's house, and it's served, I eat it just fine, but..........

It was when my youngest sister was born. I was about 10 years old. Mom was due in a few weeks, and there were complications. She was ordered to bed.

My dad was working out of town, and our church decided to help by bringing meals in for a week or two until the birth.
I know it was just a chance thing, and most of the people who brought food to us were low income families like we were. AS it worked out, we had tuna casserole for dinner every night for about two weeks.

Like I said, I'll eat it, but.........

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Have a good trip. Tell your parents "thanks" for me.

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LOL. I'm not a fan of tuna either. Too much, too often in the lean days.

now Catfish. . . or Crawfish. . . mmmmmmmm.

SS, that is one of my favorite poems.

And the night shall be filled with music,
And the cares, that infest the day,
Shall fold their tents, like the Arabs,
And as silently steal away


What fantastic pictures! Your twins picked a spot I would love to secret myself away in. Ah! And that Native American art -- fascinating! I would be in heaven.

Our family have been watching "Cash & Treasures" Tuesday nights on the Travel channel. The idea of camping and panning or mining for stones, or hunting for Megladon teeth in murky FL inland rivers, sounds delightful, even if we found little or nothing. Even the little ones are intrigued. It's something to aspire to, at least.

Thinking of you, 2L.


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Very nice, SS. My public comments about these things aren't necessarily coming from a place of pain. I don't deny that my thoughts are colored by my own experience, but I'm smart enough not to carelessly project my experience onto everyone else.

To answer your question... I don't have plans for summer vacation yet. I'm taking a real one this year though. Gotta.

GC

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Hey, GC, where would you go if you had an entire month and bottomless pockets?

SS, dude, you're living the dream.


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Tropical Island with great sunrises. Maybe one of the Hawaiian Islands.

I want to be on the beach every morning at sunrise with a cup of coffee.

And then out to lunch at an outside cafe with a couple of good friends, where all the help knows me by name.

Afternoons would consist of either surfing lessons, or yoga on the beach.

Then out to dinner with P and GB, at another casual yet swank outdoor cafe.

After dinner, sitting on the porch looking out over the beach, reading some really great book, talking to my daughter about her day and dreams, while drinking another great cup of coffee.

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