Thanks to all of you for your thoughts. It really gave me courage and strength. Just got home. We'd still be talking, but the rain started...<P>Well, I did no LB's!!!! Yea! We are back in Plan B because he is still communicating with OW. I agreed to contact him when I got back from my vacation on 10/1/99. Told him if he's still communicating with OW when I return, its back to Plan B. He understands that. <P>But there were some really good moments. He said he'd be willing to do joint counseling "in a second" with me. He says he still loves me. He is starting to be able to articulate his emotional needs. He's done some really hard work since we last saw each other (3 weeks ago) and appologized for the hurt he caused me, even admitted he didn't think he'd ever totally win my trust back, but would go so far as to be totally accountable for his time. He's leaning towards owning his part of this and the bad choice he made.<P>I asked him if OW was coming to stay here (she had a job offer). He said it is so complicated to make that happen that if he had to bet, he would bet that it won't happen. I asked if he was going to go there to live with her - he said highly unlikely. He's even thinking about not going back to England in October for his class (they are both registered for it). <P>Man, I don't know where this is going, but it ended up with the best kiss we've had since May(no not THAT passionate) standing in the pouring rain. He also said as we were parting "I know you're my best friend". <P>Thanks again Shattered, TNT and HurtandConfused. More to come.