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That show is being cancelled. No one is watching.

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Again, your ignorance is showing. I suggest you not post until you educate yourself. You're embarrasing yourself.

do you need a refresher on the rules of posting here as a guest.....

can you try to have a conversation without getting personal and rude.....

even if God forbid someone has a differing opinion...

this type of crap makes me not want to agree with you on some points even if I do agree...

cause of your inability to state your OPINIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nicely...

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I nominate ARK for President....


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I'm passionate about being an American and it infuriates me to have someone run it down out of ignorance. Octobergirl started it by deriding our President. Anyone can have an opinion Ark. As I said, I was in uniform 26 years to make sure that happens. But you want to deprive me of MY right to have an opinion? What?

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your opinion to call people ignorant has no business on this board..

so what if she he or it is ignorant....

do you really think that being derogatory is going to help anyone HEAR your opinions...

I'm passionate about America also...so what...
I can even be passionate without attacking someone personally


this board only is made up of OPINIONS...that's all it is...
but it is not your board...it belongs to the Harleys...and we are guests here...

and calling people names never never never serves this board well.....

especially when a huge premise is ALL ABOUT LEARNING TO COMMUNICATE WITHOUT JUDGEMENTAL DISRESPECT....

it should be modeled
it should sought after..

the ability to communicate
the ablility to be able to agree to disagree..
etc etc etc..

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Ark - with all due respect, this thread started with a violation of TOS - disrespect.

OG, As passionate as you are about your beliefs and feelings, they are no more passionate than mine.

I had to discontinue contact with a long time friend, who insisted on sending me hateful anti-Bush stuff, while she stood for an anti-pornography group - the incongruency was glaring - the hatred and disrespect was beyond anything I could tolerate, and when I asked her to stop sending me anything political so that we could work on issues for which she disagreed, I received a rabidly hateful response. I asked her to lose my e-mail address at that point, because I would be blocking any further attempts to communicate with me on ANY issue.

There are many things I find that Bush-haters are not open to hearing. For one thing, anything good about the man, and what he has done for the economy after terrorists struck at the heart of the economy...

The man has a heart of gold - and I never knew it until we were under attack. He deserves our respect. He deserves that from all of us. Including you. As much as you hate him.


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O Girl:

For some reason, I have a different Google Version..

I don't know much about computers...

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neither side are open to HEAR anything....

so somehow that makes it OK for the name calling to begin...

I dont' get it...and continue to be blissfully ignorant of feeling the need to put people down to get any OPINION of mine out there...especially here.....where we rally and try to teach communication with out the name calling...

edited cause I didn't read your reponse properly and thought you were talking to me...

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October, we can agree to disagree. If you think what you've said is "tongue in cheek," I think you need to get a new perspective on that concept.

Ark, you're okay with her calling the President all kinds of disrespectful things, making derogatory remarks about him and the nation, but you get mad at ME for calling her on it? Pardner, you're applying a real double standard there.

And I am VERY judgmental, Ark, but excuse me, "ignorant" and "embarrassing" aren't four-letter words. I have no expectation of October ever changing her mind but I will not allow such statements as she made to stand unchallenged. Why should I have to? Just where is your sense of fairness, Ark?

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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." --Theodore Roosevelt

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Mmmm, how long before this thread gets locked?

Let's see... it's 19 UTC right now. I'll give it to 00 UTC.

Who wants in?

I'd say my least favorite thing about political arguments is the widespread use of the strawman.

This thread is already full of 'em.

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yes I am OK with it in the sense that it's not personal.
for every negative octobergirl comment
there is postive comment somewhere about the same man

it's an opinion ...
and it is what this country is all about....
and I seriously doubt GW is gonna get his feelings hurt...

but HERE on this FORUM all about COMMUNICATING serious painful things between humans....you need to follow the rules....

and do so without name calling...
sorry but that is how I see it..without any double standard..

cause your name calling is a huge huge conversation blocker for me...

fair is to go start your own board..
and make any rules you want...

not decide because you are passionate about this or that that it give YOU the right to put someone down personally cause YOU don't agree...

don't agree all you want...
do it without calling them ignorant...



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Lock it. It should be.

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what's a utc or does me posting this hedge the bets...

what are you talking about graycloud...

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It's personal to ME, Ark. I guess we will just have to disagree too.

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And to those who voted for Bush all I can say is "What were you thinking?"


this is the comment that turned me off ... except I think it was intended as a joke

I voted for Bush because he was a far superior choice, in my opinion --- that is what I was thinking. Choices.

I never said anything nearly as derogatory as this about any president I did not vote for ... out of respect. And THAT is what I do not understand.

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I have never minded disagreeing with anyone..

and you'd probably find my opinions more align in yours than you think..

but I can't support the personal attacks...no matter the message intended....

it's not right on this forum....on this genre

ARK

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