Did someone wearing a beret just make a drive-by? I never will forget how a friend of mine in London told me you could recognize a Frenchman. He said you could always spot a Frenchman because he had a beret on his head, a fag in his hand and he was taking a (whiz) on the side of the road.

Of course, like the Pope, I am only quoting...

Why is it that Muslims can condemn all Christians to death and we have to let them in the name of freedom of religion but if a Christian says one wrong word about Muslims, well, riots, murders, you name it. Where is the parity?

Have you read: End of Faith by Sam Harris. He would answer differently than me.

Me, I would say it isn't acceptable to hate any group--just to hate actions. Once we get into hating groups humans get weird and do stuff like genocide.

No beret, just a pony tail.

Why do you have such an issue with the french btw?

I said I was only quoting. Now I know how the Pope feels.

Sly.

Actually there are some things French I do like. They make great toast, for example.

Oh and I guess next you'll be attacking the Pope!

Clever. Are you in politics by chance?

Well...gotta take the kids for a run in the forest. Happy posting...

Okay so the French MIGHT have a few nice forests too.

They do braids pretty well. There is something to be said for their doors. I have used their drains when I had a house on the side of a hill.

What did Holland give us? Oh yes - treats and auctions.

Back from soccer game...H brought a friend of his, female who he is friends with husband and wife...my DD1 was irate and refused to speak to her or him. Of course he noted her behavior and told me DD1 was evil, I told him DD1 was jealous and it was perfectly normal. I wasn't very comfortable myself since this is one of his female friends that he had so much contact with...she was the only one he supposedly has not cut contact with b/c he insists that he is friends with both H/W and wants to be able to maintain the friendship. He supposedly goes and spends time with the H when the W is working at night. My H was the same way with our neighbors before I met them and it was very uncomfortable and annoying but once they got to know me, surprise, surprise they became more my friends than his...this has always been the trend. So, although it makes me sick to my stomache I am trying to keep my mouth shut and give this thing time and see where it goes.

H and I went out on date earlier in the week and are going out again tonight...things have been much more tolerable and there has been no fighting.

Could b/c I ask no questions, expect nothing and challenge nothing...dunno???

Pio...you are correct about G wanting to get on board with the M...I just wish I knew that my H was on board...I think he is just testing the waters; doing a trial; pushing to see how far the limits will go? I don't know. I do know I'm not going to think about it just for my own mental health.

I am getting DD1 into counseling this week. H quit last week when he said he wanted D, so I am moving ahead with family counseling to get us through whatever this period is.

Nams,
I hope that I don't repeat your story...sorry you had to go through it...and yes, between wanting to do the best for my kids and needing to know I've done everything in my power to recover the M, that's why I'm doing what I'm doing.

I do feel like a bit of a doormat and will probably kick myself for all the time wasted if it doesn't go well but then again I'll be able to sleep at night knowing I did my best. I still have love buried somewhere for this man, as crazy as it seems.

I also don't know that I could do this again with anyone else. Basically my philosophy is when you start with someone new all you get is new problems which take years to discover and deal with. I know what I have which is half the battle...now to conquer! My first M I could have never pictured myself wanting a D but it was all me...I hit the wall after years of plan A with someone who just wasn't wanting to work on things... This is my only saving grace, that I think I will recognize when it is really over for me regardless of whether it is over for H or not...

Just remember that even D is not the end. It is great that you are in family counseling and I hope you convince H to attend as well. This can be so helpful getting the children through this difficult time.

The longer you stay with your Plan A, the harder it will be to want the M. This is what happened to me. I guess Dr. Harley's 6 month rule makes sense. I prefer to think of it like a pet dog. How long can you kick you pet dog before some day it decides to bite you. But then I didn't go to school for no fancy educatun neither.

You need to stay with your best Plan A. It will be so helpful to your own personal recovery if you do. Isn't that what nams said a bit earlier?

Well today is substantially better. Yesterday I was really tense and even got into a fight with DD1 because she refused to eat her macaroni and cheese because the cheese was the wrong color and she said she didn't like it. I asked how she could make that assessment since she had yet to taste it. Finally I told her to go to her room. Instead she opted to taste it (and reluctantly liked it).

Parents night in G2 went okay. I had a great deal of difficulty getting to sleep because of my H?V problem. It just really seems to like to itch at night. How does it know?

No contact from WW. To be honest, I keep looking for an email. I think I am not looking so hard any more. I am back to imagining myself divorced/divorcing and it seems to be the safest way for me to think. I am not saying that is my plan - it is just my best mental approach that seems to keep me sane. I have another parents night tonight with DD2.

This is kind of a personal question Pio, but you've discussed your pee pee on here so I presume anything goes.

You obviously married quite "late". What was your history before you met gemela? It doesn't really have any bearing on anything that's followed but I'm interested in what your "romantic" background is. (Nosey actually)

BTW where did Todd say he was going?????

Not trying to be evasive but I am not sure how to answer the question. I like what Glenn Close said to Robert Redford in the movie "The Natural".

ToddAC went to make an inventory system in Excel. That, in itself, bothers me. I would think inventory is better suited to database software (unless you don't sell anything).

Fudging again. That's ok. I was just being nosey.

An inventory system in Excel? I thought that was what Access was invented for.

Oh, what did Glenn Close say to Robert Redford?? Never saw the movie.

That's a shame. It is a good movie.

LOL - blood from a stone.

The life we learn with and the life we live with after that.

I never had a life we learn with.