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I was sick to my stomach for Hilary Clinton. But, I guess she deserved it

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right!

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NO ONE SAID SHE DID

NO ONE HERE EVER SAID THAT

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Well I never blamed Mrs Vitters either, I just had a hard time understanding her foregivness. It seemed that she had alot to say about Hilary, but expects the world to change their view of adultry when it is her husband

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You know what I think is really awful and really shows your character, bl?

Is lots and lots of people sign on here looking for help, begging for help.

You never once signed on to help them, did you?

no, you just had to come on and make a politial statement.

You came on to bad mouth a woman who was cheated on- you didn't even make this thread about her husband- no you chose to make it about the victim.

I guess we can see what kind of person you are. Thanks for making that point so nicely for all of us.

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Well I never blamed Mrs Vitters either, I just had a hard time understanding her foregivness. It seemed that she had alot to say about Hilary, but expects the world to change their view of adultry when it is her husband

Sounds like you are the one who has the problem with forgiveness and "judgementalism." Here you are trotting out some comment made 8 years ago to beat up this victim of adultery as if she somehow had it coming. Sounds about as "compassionate" as a junkyard dog, BL.


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I don't have to defend my character to you or anyone else.
I am the type of person who doesn't live in glass houses and throws stones. But I will throw them back any day of the week
I am not blinded by this type of blatant double standard. I believe in marriage, mine and others. If you want to defend blatant hypocrisy then I guess your character is showing too. thank you for pointing that out to the rest of us

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I am not blinded by this type of blatant double standard. I believe in marriage, mine and others. If you want to defend blatant hypocrisy then I guess your character is showing too. thank you for pointing that out to the rest of us

I think that would be called "judging," BL.


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yes, I am being judged

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hey guys 2+2=4

why don't you discredit that for a while
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I don't think it is right what happened to Mrs Vitters, I hope she now understands what it is like and will refrain from being so judgemental in the future.


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I never feel that the victim of adultery deserves it, but this one is real close for me. I do feel sorry for the wife, but the husband I think he deserves to loose everything

So we can only be judgemental if we are not hypocritical? You seem to be on a moral pedastal of your own. Be careful, it's teetering. No one 'deserves' to be cheated on. Not even the worst of hypocrits.

We are all hypocrits to a degree. We are all judgemental to a degree also.

Turn off the TV. Get your nose out of other peoples personal issues. You obviously have triggers. Why not post about that instead?


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BL,

You basically stated since they were vocal against Clinton, she deserved what she got by her husband having an affair.

I guess because I was vocal about Clinton, that is why my husband cheated and I deserved. DISGUSTING!

Honestly, I am shaking from reading what you wrote.

To me, this is a perfect example of the "strawman" argument as graplin explained. beenlurkin said nothing of the sort.

Wendy Vitters showed little of Mel's "compassion" for Hillary Clinton when the tragedy of infidelity visited her. It is sad that she is now understanding better the experience.

Infidelity in the news is very frequently discussed on this board from what I see here.

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To me, this is a perfect example of the "strawman" argument as graplin explained. beenlurkin said nothing of the sort.

BL most certainly DID say something 'of the sort'.

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To me, this is a perfect example of the "strawman" argument as graplin explained. beenlurkin said nothing of the sort.

BL most certainly DID say something 'of the sort'.

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I never feel that the victim of adultery deserves it, but this one is real close for me.

ba - You are right. I'm sorry, I had missed that sentence. I can't agree with that sentiment.

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FS,

I have mixed emotions about this thread but one thing I am not confused about is that you rock.

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Wow.....I personally was wondering when this "NEWS" was going to be discussed here on MB.

When I saw Mrs. V on the news last night, I felt such utter compassion for her. I could see my own pain in her face, magnified. I can not in my worst nightmares imagine how awful it must be to be betrayed and then have the guts to stand by your betrayer on NATIONAL TV.

Let's face it, we all (BS) swore that if our S ever did it to us, we'd throw 'em out on their arses.

I still don't understand why we don't. Maybe it is because we love them and still see something in them that is salvagable,,,,a glimmer of hope for a happy marriage.

Me, I'd like to see the Congressman man-up and step down, then I could maybe find a little respect for him, but we all know that ain't gonna happen. Am I surprized, heck no, but then I live in DC.

Perhaps the only positive outcome might be that the Congressman will finally realize what a great lady his wife has to be for standing by him in his darkest hour and maybe even understand that it is her darkest hour too, and he is the one who put out the lights.

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Neither Hillary Clinton nor Wendy Vitters deserved to be cheated on by two low character, cheating, perverted and pompous individuals such as their husbands, period. You don't ask to be cheated on to be betrayed.

Yes, perhaps Mrs. Vitters understands better the pain that Mrs. Clinton may have experienced by Slick Willy's betrayals and philandering. It no less makes her a victim in this. Heck, I couldn't believe that Hillary stayed with Bill and to this day believe that she only did so to further her political career (and still believe they will be divorced one day soon). Of course I couldn't believe that I tried to save my ex WW and marriage when I found out she cheated (I said I would not tolerate that ever).

I don't care if you are republican, democrat, liberal, conservative or what, poor character is not a good thing for those entrusted with pubic service.

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BeenLurking,

I hear ya. There were plenty of "gloats" on this board when a young pregnant woman was *killed* for goodness' sake, just because she was an OW. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/teary.gif" alt="" />

This sort of news item (repercussions of infidelity) often gets discussed here. Thanks BL for bringing it up.


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When I saw Mrs. V on the news last night, I felt such utter compassion for her. I could see my own pain in her face, magnified. I can not in my worst nightmares imagine how awful it must be to be betrayed and then have the guts to stand by your betrayer on NATIONAL TV.

Yes, we've seen lots of BWs of WH who are politicians. but I don't think I've ever seen one in so much pain. I felt so bad for her. I thought she was going to cry right there on stage - and of course, she's having to "stand by her man."

This isn't the first pol caught with his pants down and unfortunately it won't be the last, of either stripe.

If you want to go back, wasn't Hillary saying (pre-Monica) how *she* wouldn't be a "stand by her man" type of woman? So it came back to bite her. Just as Mrs. Vitter's judgement came back to bite her. Why don't we take a lesson from this, and all stop pointing at sticks in other people's eyes.

I never knew more about how to have a perfect marriage than before I got married. I never knew more about how to be a perfect parent than before I had kids. It is so easy to fall into feeling better than those who are "down" in some way or another. But you never know when you might be the one who is down.

And that's what I wanted to say about this topic.


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