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But really, am I?

For saying "NO" to Gray's list? And only agreeing to what's in the agreement?

Should I just roll over and play dead?

I was planning on packing stuff up anyway to move it into storage when I move the inventory items there after they are logged. Starting with whatever junk of his is in my way.

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It's always heartbreaking to say goodbye to a pet. Our son said he was so relieved that she had been ready to go while he was still at home, to comfort her and say goodbye at the last minute.

On alighter note, one time one of our goldfish was floating belly up in the tank. I disposed of it expeditiously, without saying anything to our son. It went into the guest bathroom (which was DS's.)

He left the table during dinner, and went into the bathroom. Suddenly he called out to us "Hey, there's a fish swimming in the toilet bowl! What's he doing in here?"

Oops! I ran in and there was Ishkabibble, looking good as new. I scooped him out, and got a stern lecture from DS about putting his pet in the toilet and how I nearly killed it.

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Charlotte, Your posts sound balanced, poised, and detatched. Imagine what condition you would be in now, without Plan B. Very interesting to witness how protected you are in Plan B.

Not eager to please, desperate to get him back, anxious not to alienate the alien. Dignity, self-respect, completely aware of your value and your worth. And not about to sell yourself cheap. Stick to the agreement. You're doing really great.

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Bellevue, LOL!

Thanks for the morning smile!


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Charlotte, I agree with Bellevue. You're doing great!


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And about dating before 2 years - DON'T DO IT!!!!!!! Just when you think you are happy again, your husband (the real one) will show up.

You are still quite early in Plan B. Give it another couple of months.

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I don't know Charlotte. I think I'd stick to the agreement for now. Your feelings could change daily on this.


Husband was unfaithful to me before and after our marriage, at least 7 times. I found out 13 yrs into the marriage. Trickle truth for an entire year. Several different d-days, so it was more like a d-year. Difficult recovery.



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It's always heartbreaking to say goodbye to a pet. Our son said he was so relieved that she had been ready to go while he was still at home, to comfort her and say goodbye at the last minute.

On alighter note, one time one of our goldfish was floating belly up in the tank. I disposed of it expeditiously, without saying anything to our son. It went into the guest bathroom (which was DS's.)

He left the table during dinner, and went into the bathroom. Suddenly he called out to us "Hey, there's a fish swimming in the toilet bowl! What's he doing in here?"

Oops! I ran in and there was Ishkabibble, looking good as new. I scooped him out, and got a stern lecture from DS about putting his pet in the toilet and how I nearly killed it.

*sigh*


I agree. It is a good thing he could say goodbye. I think it helps. It doesn't hurt any less, whether it's animal or human animal, but it does make a difference. Sudden death is the hardest, I believe.

That is so funny about the goldfish, though!! We had one at my g'ma's that I named Klaus. He grew really large but he developed a tumor over his eye. With some research I found out that it's common with goldfish to develop tumors. I had no idea!!

There was really no treatment and it got bigger and bigger until it burst one day. It was awful. And it happened at the same time my bro was having problems with his ex. He was trying to get an emergency order to protect my nieces. It was weird how it happened that way. Like bad juju.

Okay, I don't know why I remembered that story...well, I take that back. I do know why. The goldfish....duh!!! Anyway, I think about it from time to time. Because my ex-SIL is a sociopath and the epitome of evil. We all have to be vigilant for the girls FOREVER!

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Charlotte, Your posts sound balanced, poised, and detatched. Imagine what condition you would be in now, without Plan B. Very interesting to witness how protected you are in Plan B.

Not eager to please, desperate to get him back, anxious not to alienate the alien. Dignity, self-respect, completely aware of your value and your worth. And not about to sell yourself cheap. Stick to the agreement. You're doing really great.


Thank you, Bellevue.

I didn't think I was being unreasonable but it helps to have reinforcement!!

Yeah, it is interesting how I am in Plan B. Sometimes I wonder if something is wrong with me because I'm not sad. Then I think: What the heck is wrong with you, Fool?! Do you WANT to be sad?! LOL!!

But I still wonder sometimes. Maybe I used up all of my sad?
I always refer to my turning point if someone brings up anything that they may have done or said during my bad time.

Like: Well, if you told me that or did that before October 30th, I may not remember!

But yeah, it gets better every day for me! I've had a lot of growth spiritually as well. It's great!

Thanks again Bellevue!!

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ewwww....

Ok sorry to t/j but I gotsta know...

What happened? Did the whole fish burst, or just the tumor, and did that kill it or...??

The very day that DS6b was gonna take his pet praying mantis to show and tell, she died...

We now have kittens. Longer life spans. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Thank you, jayne!!!

I am going to continue on this path!!!

If Gray decides to find me he will have to look for my footprints, I'm not leaving any breadcrumbs behind!

I tend to make my own path in life rather than follow others. Blaze a trail. Because it's harder, more of a challenge. So, yeah!!!! Going for broke, Baby!!!!!

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The very day that DS6b was gonna take his pet praying mantis to show and tell, she died...


Awwwww! That's so sweet!

Well, my Mom was on my phone with my brother and we were all freaking out about that latest development at the time. I walked into the kitchen and the tumor had burst above his eye...I think he may have brushed up against the ruins of the Parthenon that decorated his tank.

He swam wildly back and forth, freaking out and I couldn't stand to watch and I wasn't sure what to do...I wanted to help, like take him out so maybe he'd die quicker but I didn't want to stick my hand in the water with all of that "stuff" in there, the blood and the tumor juice and little bits of flesh.

Yeah. It was bad. No more goldfish! I don't remember the type that are in there now but they are as far from goldfish as you can get!

Yeah, kittens. Good idea. Cats live a really long time. Wasn't the original "Morris" like 33 when he died? We have a 20-year-old. Her counterpart was about the same age when she died but we aren't sure if Mom accidently ran over her or she was already dead under Mom's van. She was really hard of hearing and may not have heard the van. But anyway, she was cool. Our black cat named Snow. She survived a house fire and everything.

She was one cool kitty. We still have her son that she had before she had her operation.

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Hi believer!

Thank you. I'll do my best but I'm not making any promises. I really don't want to get involved with anyone right now, though. Just as friends, that's it.

I'm enjoying being on my own too much. I really didn't think I would but I am. "Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!" said Gomer Pyle.

Sometimes I do wish that Gray could see me, though. I'd knock his socks off!! His eyes would roll out of their sockets and hang by their stalks. The sound of his hand hitting his forehead would be as loud as a thunderclap as he exclaimed, "OMG!! WHAT was I THINKING????!!!!" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Well, he'll see me in court next time, I suppose. If he can see THROUGH my Doberman. I'll be on the OTHER side of whichever side Gray is on. And I'm tiny so I won't be in his line of vision. Of course, I'm sure we'll have to go into mediation again so that will mean he'll be across the table. Oh well.

Gaze upon your regrets, Mr. Gray!

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ew ew ew ew... so sorry I asked!

I'm surprised ishkabooble (?) survived the chlorinated eu de toilet. Or maybe that's what revived him/her.

My previous two cats only lived to about 7... one ran under the neighbor's car just as it was backing out of the driveway. The other one was heartbroken, and came down with cancer within 6 months.

Our two new kittens just got fixed Thursday, so we now have two "satellite kitties". It's pretty funny when they are trying to see each other and bump satellite dishes.

MIL noted that our kits are just like our kids- one minute fighting and chasing, the next minute best of friends. I've sometimes wondered if she was also making the observation about the pair of adults in the household...


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ew ew ew ew... so sorry I asked!


ROTFLMAO!!!



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I'm surprised ishkabooble (?) survived the chlorinated eu de toilet. Or maybe that's what revived him/her.


Could be!

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My previous two cats only lived to about 7... one ran under the neighbor's car just as it was backing out of the driveway. The other one was heartbroken, and came down with cancer within 6 months.


Awwwww....that's so sad! It's so sad to see a pet mourning for a lost friend.

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Our two new kittens just got fixed Thursday, so we now have two "satellite kitties". It's pretty funny when they are trying to see each other and bump satellite dishes.


LOL!! I can just see the movie in my mind!

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MIL noted that our kits are just like our kids- one minute fighting and chasing, the next minute best of friends. I've sometimes wondered if she was also making the observation about the pair of adults in the household...


LMAO!! She probably was!!

And yes, ITA about kittens and cats being like little kids. Another thing they like to do is go in and out a LOT! I swear! They need to install some kitty doors over at my grandma's! Not only do they let you know when they want out with those questioning meows, but also when they want in they "knock" on the door! Probably going to need new door frames over there pretty soon!

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Charlotte - My rescued cat has a kitty door. And he has no claws! He is supposed to stay in but I gave up on that. Anyway he survived living in the wilds with the coyotes for 4 months, so I guess he will be okay.

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My rescued cat has a kitty door. And he has no claws! He is supposed to stay in but I gave up on that. Anyway he survived living in the wilds with the coyotes for 4 months, so I guess he will be okay.


Awwwww!! You have one savvy kitty there...avoiding becoming coyote fodder!! LOL!!

My Sis keeps hers in, too, but only because he wants to fight everything on four legs. Two legs, too. He's quite a character. We think he's very likely part Bobcat. She lived in a bobcat area when he came into her life. He even LOOKS like a bobcat. And he's BIG!! He was born with a tail, though. He subsequently lost it in an accident. So now he's his true bobcat self...sans tail!! LOL!

My Sis lives in Louisiana now. She found a sweet kitty at the recycling center there. She put up posters but no one claimed her so she brought him here. I let my aunt name her because I'm always accused of naming everything. Well! I allow time for names but when no one comes forward an animal needs a name!

Anyway, she named her Chablis after the character in "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil." Chablis has orange teeth. We don't know why and neither does the vet. I bought her a sparkly bright blue collar to match Chablis' dress in the movie. She's such a sweetie!! And a fabulous mouser! Her coat is nice and soft from all of the vermin she's eaten. (That's my theory...rats and mice keep a coat nice and soft. I wouldn't want to try it for MY hair, though! LOL!)

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This must be a record! I haven't posted since the 2nd!! LOL!!

Just a quick report. I signed up for dance lessons. I don't know which dance yet. I'm hoping a little of everything. Maybe even bellydancing when I'm in better shape!! Not that I'm in terrible shape now but just not used to a lot of heavy physical activity.

So anyway, it should be fun!! Better than going to a stanky ol' gym for sure!

I'm still working on inventory but my Doberman doesn't want to rush things too much so I get to have some time to go out and live a little. LOL!! I don't know what I did in my last life to have ended up with a human attorney but I am blessed. My brother should have had it so good when he had to divorce. My Mom, too.

Well, I guess flight lessons will follow soon enough! One thing at a time! LOL!

Bye-bye Mr. Gray....I'm on my way to do the Tango!!!!!!

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Better than going to a stanky ol' gym for sure!

Hey Charoltte!

Speaking of stiky ol' gyms... those Italian guys in the spandex need to take a shower... I remember Germans smelling when we'd ride the bus and U-Bhan, but I always thought Italians wore nice shoes and expensive cologn!

Glad you're doing well... and have fun with your belly-dancing lessons!!!! Oh, they sell belly-dancing outfits over here... which surprised me as I didn't think that the Muslims approved of such "lurid" behavior! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Semper Fi,

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Charlotte, the belly dancing will get you into shape. Why wait? I need to get back into hula hooping lessons. I love hooping. Have a video of some spontaneous hooping - not a planned and choreographed performance.

Spiral, a professional hooper, at Burning Man

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