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Orchid: I asked you to stop.

No you didn't. You gave very specific instructions as to how MM should post.

1) post something else
2) Reply and show what is wrong with a post
3) don't just make an accusation
4) be a bit more understanding in your posts


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Orchid, First you said this...

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Can you please post something else? Reply and show what is wrong with a post, don't just make an accusation especially to someone who is new to MB. They have no real clue about what you mean by a troll.

Please be a bit more understanding in your posts.

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It takes time to realize how to heal and help. How to handle someone whose style or post we don't like can be a bit more complex and of course responding in anger often has it's drawbacks. Basically my post to your was to help you stay out of harms way.


So which was it? Were you concerned about how someone new might read her post, or were you concerned for her safety?

What harms way did you see her in? Who were you trying to protect her from?

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BA: ********edit*************

To any who choose to read this post,


BA, you were edited by Justuss. Consider that a good thing because no matter what you post, you will be considered by some t/b bad. That's sad if you are not but seems that's how some want to handle things so that's their choice. With that said, please reconsider your posting methods. You may have something good to say but since it c/b taken wrong anyway, consider just reading or if you feel the need to post, post referencing another post. Just a suggestion.

To all readers of this post: The mods are doing what they s/b doing within the parameters of their responsibilities. They are to remain neutral until a true TOS is broken.

Now it also seems my words are being twisted by some who quite frankly surprise me. Thought you all knew me better than that but guess not. I know why and what I posted. If it was taken wrong and I explain, but it still wants to be taken wrong, then so be it. Can't help people see the truth if they don't want to.

For the sake of the currently confused: I asked Maggie to stop with the troll statements because she was the last one I saw post that way. I also mentioned that her progress was related to the fact that she recognized her anger and choose to stop posting in anger. I never encouraged her to stop posting. Nothing more on that subject is needed to be explained.

Maggie has chosen to stop posting. We need to respect it. She is welcome to come back for support or to give support as needed. One day, I hope she can understand this important point.

We are all within our rights to block posters and stop posting. Is it wise for us to do so? That depends but it is our choice.

I can tell you that all this stupid troll accusations has certainly got me wondering about how much longer I will be posting here. Yea... I know that's my choice to make.

Hope this isn't a spitting in the wind post. Will keep a clean cloth handy just in case. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Orchid, I hope you were able to read my post before it was edited by JustUss. I don't know why it was deleted, it was conveyed in a civilized and reasonable manner. I won't post it again, but there were two points in my edited post:

1) Thanking Orchid for defending what's right and not what's popular.

2) Some of you are unreasonably blaming Orchid for something that's not Orchid's fault. (Won't get into detail about this point, obviously JustUss does not allow it for some reason).

I am a reasonable person. Use reason and decency, I will respond the same and treat you with respect. If you don't, I'll try to just ignore.


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BestAngel:

Could you please tell us why you are "BestAngel1" now?

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BA, you were edited by Justuss. Consider that a good thing because no matter what you post, you will be considered by some t/b bad.


So, BA, should wear her edit as a "badge of honor"?

Wow...just wow.

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Could you please tell us why you are "BestAngel1" now?

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I am still trying to get a full answer on that waiting for JustUss's email reply to my questions.

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Could you please tell us why you are "BestAngel1" now?

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I am still trying to get a full answer on that waiting for JustUss's email reply to my questions.

Were you unable to login as "BestAngel"? Were you banned?

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you beat me to that Marsh. Orchid has been one of the main stirrers of the pot of late. Very sad to see this. Very sad indeed.

Nothing surprises me on these boards any more. I have noticed a change in her from the moment her H posted here. Or at least that is my perception.

What gives Orchid?

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Agreed, MEDC, something seems to have changed.

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Orchid, I don't know about you, I will stay out of this particular thread.

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I have noticed a change in her from the moment her H posted here. Or at least that is my perception.

What gives Orchid?

Agree...Orchid's husband posts in what imo was a very foggy manner-excused by Orchid as him not being a regular poster on the board and then suddenly BLAM...An all new Orchid appears on the scene...<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Orchid, can't you see that your continued defense of BA, now BA1, <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> does absolutely NOTHING but EMBOLDEN him/her/it...Why in the world would you wish to prop up a troll on a board that I once believed that you valued greatly...I simply do not get it...

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I am still trying to get a full answer on that waiting for JustUss's email reply to my questions.

I'd love to see THAT email:

Perhaps it says:

Justuss, please explain why you edited me and banned me from posting on MB...AGAIN. You know you can't really ban me because I refuse to accept your authority here and I will find a way around your IP ban each and every time. Therefore, though it's annoying to have to reregister everytime...why not just accept that I can't actually be banned and will continue trolling away despite your attempts to stop me...that is, unless you can explain to MY satisfaction why I should stop because I am the ultimate arbitrator of my worth here, not you.

BestAdvisor, BestAdvisor1, Sunshine, BestAngel, BestAngel1, et. al."


Justuss...please just keep banning her and banning her. If she/he really isn't a troll why would she/he keep choosing easily identifiable names. She/he wants to disrupt these boards and needle you (and all of us) in the process.

On another note, I know it feeds the trolls to point them out but people (and lurkers) need to be warned from time to time (like maggie, my wife and I and others have). Especially as the troll begins accumulating posts and appears more seasoned. IMO, the worst "feeding of the trolls" occurs when they are defended as that results in hard feelings between the opposing veterans with the troll as the successful instigator. (BA's edited post(s) certainly stated she/he perceived her/himself as being "defended" even if that wasn't anyone's true intent).

IMO, trolls unfortunately, HAVE to be pointed out as trolls but nobody should or HAS to defend them (though they can post whatever they like).

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Edit: I have deleted my response here and reposted it on a new thread. RE: This subject is no longer related to Maggie's post.

Here's the link: So you really think Orchid supports trolls?!?!?!

If you choose to post, please do so on new post. I feel it isn't fair to continue this discussion on Maggie's thread. I am not telling others what to do, I am providing another place to post their POVs as needed.

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Orchid:

I am not saying that it isn't you posting...What I AM saying is that since your husband posted, the way that you post has CHANGED...MEDC didn't have to dig deep at all...It is OBVIOUS...I suspect that others see it too...

As far as where everyone is getting that you are defending BA is concerned...Well, BA sure thinks you are defending her/him/it...It IS OBVIOUS that you are defending the troll, make no mistake about it...

You contradict yourself within your posts...

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BA and others may have posted non-helpful things in the past. I haven't really seen it lately but I have seen some following him/her around and making accusations without just cause. That to me is not right.


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Again, I am not defending a troll. That's your opinion.

The first quote above by you DEFENDS BA, and then in the very next breath you say you aren't defending him/her/it...Good grief how in the world can you not see this??? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

*THUD*

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BA, you were edited by Justuss. Consider that a good thing because no matter what you post, you will be considered by some t/b bad.


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I have seen some following him/her around and making accusations without just cause. That to me is not right.


Do you think Justuss editted BA, w/o cause?

Banned her/him w/o cause?

Is following her/him around w/o cause?

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Again, I am not defending a troll. That's your opinion.


Well, you did tell a poster, who was editted/banned, to consider it a good thing.

What did you mean by that?

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JESUS!

Take me now, Lord!

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This subject is no longer related to Maggie's post. I have created a post separate from Maggie's.

Here's the link: So you really think Orchid supports trolls?!?!?!

If you choose to post, please do so on new post. I feel it isn't fair to continue this discussion on Maggie's thread. I am not telling others what to do, I am providing another place to post their POVs as needed.

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Hi Maggie,

I'm still relatively new here, just approaching my first anniversary, but I can recall sentiments that may be similar to what you MIGHT be feeling.

A week after I registered, I felt like I needed to leave the boards when a firestorm erupted that was bewildering to me. My WH was not aware of it, but I truly wanted to do research so I tried to send a generic request to the MB Staff. (Details on my sign line, not important here.)

Dr. Harley himself answered <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> and he and Mrs. Harley suggested I call the radio show. (I wondered if they were just short on scheduled guests, but I don't want to make that disrespectful judgement, especially in light of the results.)

I did email one poster who was very supportive during my time off the boards....two weeks. That time change my life and our marriage.....saved both actually.

If you need to vent when you're taking a break, my addy is in my profile. I'll be praying for you.

You have brought a much-needed perspective to these forums and we all will be stronger when/if you choose to return.

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Maaaaggggggggiiiiieeee}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

(Remember my melody you reference on that other thread ~~~> "Ace In a Bucket"} LOL <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Ace

P.S. You might consider calling the radio show but I think Mrs. W. said there are limited times before the end of the year. You can dig in the MB radio archives for my call "Lacey" from Wed. Jan. 31, 2007. It's free and the two hour segment (usually about 10-20 min. each guest) replays all day.


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