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[q u o t e] (without spaces) followed by the 'end-quote' [/q u o t e]
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Prostitution is just one of many possible scenarios, I never suggested that it wasn't...it still doesn't make it any less damaging in my opinion...It is one that I find EXTREMELY DAMAGING....and yes, you may argue that all ADULTERY is EXTREMELY damaging, I have no problems with that..I am not interested in a debate..my opinions on this subject have been expressed and they won't change as I am sure yours won't either...

So "family" (including the innocent children) don't fit into the political equation as someone who matters, according to the author. Wow.

I'm somewhat certain if this author ever became a BS their story would change quite quickly.

Its too sad it takes experiencing adultery for some to understand the gravity of its destruction.

Jo

Yikes, I hope you are talking to Dershowitz, not to me - I was simply relaying his words!

AGG

I also agree 100%.

The laws governing adultery should have never been changed, IMO.

Yeah, kinda my thinking too - the "good news" about prostitution vs. an affair partner is that there are no emotional ties with a hooker; the "bad news" would seem to be that there is no excuse of "making a mistake" or "being seduced" - soliciting a prostitute across state lines, making complex financial arrangements to pay her, etc, all point to a very calculating and preplanned set of actions, which would hurt the BS with their callousness... No win either way, I guess.

AGG

Lest we not forget life threatening STDs.

Why is that always the thing that is at the bottom of everyone's list, or even omitted?

Not targeting you AGG cuz you must know I really respect you. But it just seems like most look at STDs like "it won't happen to me" or an unlikely scenario.

Jo

wow...I think both would have their own unique problems...I think a hooker removes the emotional issue associated with affairs though.
I think there are a few people on this board that have dealt with both.
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I beleive star*fish has experienced both.

I don't think it's uncommon for serial cheaters or SAs to engage in types of prostitution, ONS's and affairs that might include emotional connections.

I wonder if this governor has a history w/ this type of behavior. Something tells me this wasn't a brand new hobby.
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As I looked at the photo of his press conference on AOL today, the look on his BW's face spoke volumes. IMHO, it conveys anger and hatred more than hurt.

I suspect that he has done this before and got caught by her, this time it was worse because of the public humiliation. I think she has had enough.

Just my take.

Who

This is exactly the way I interpreted Dershowitz's comments on CNN last night....

[quote]As I looked at the photo of his press conference on AOL today, the look on his BW's face spoke volumes. IMHO, it conveys anger and hatred more than hurt.

I suspect that he has done this before and got caught by her, this time it was worse because of the public humiliation.
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My gut was telling me the same thing.

Right. Sorry. I get carried away. I edited my post to make it less directed.

Dershowitz has also stated he is in favor of torture of criminal suspects in a broad set of circumstances.

Just like politicians, he likes the spotlight.

Good point Jo! I guess I was thinking that STD's would be equally likely for either scenario (affair partner or a hooker), but the risk should be kept in mind for both. Although I suspect that that is the last thing people think about when dropping their pants, because their AP or $5000 hooker are "special" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />.

AGG

No worries, I figured so, but just wanted to check <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

AGG

This mentality really, really burns me up.

People constantly say that the “private lives” of politicians or corporate CEOs shouldn’t matter to the rest of us. But they DO matter because these people are our leaders, and when they set horrible examples it only encourages other people to do the same.

After all, adultery is what the Important Successful Big Shots do to reward themselves for their success, and they almost always get away with it. Why shouldn’t other folks indulge in the harmless fun of a little cheating as well, just like the Big Guys?

And they do.

And their families suffer endlessly, almost always behind closed doors.

What a f***ed-up world we live in.
Mulan

Heartpain,
I've never posted to you before, but here we go.



Look in the mirrow and welcomn yourself to the apostosy that invades this generation of people.

To consider that sex with a prostitute has no consequence, today, or in the past, is faulty thinking. the type of thinking that has taken a moralistic society in America, to the edge of our own abyss and destruction.

To condone sin, is nothing less than participation of that very sin.

Keep the legislature out of it, consider instead, you own moral choice and defend it as if it were your child. Would you agree that your own child is free and could participate in prostitution and still be OK?????

Think again! Use your heart this time and contemplate the pain, Heartpain!

All Blessings,
Jerry

So true. That is why I had so many problems with Dershowitz's statements on CNN last night...

Adultery runs rampant in the halls of power that control the large corporation my wife and I work for. All the execs do it. It’s an official perk.

A previous CEO has been married 6 times, most recently to the wife of one of his direct reports. He later resigned, for what always goes along with adultery – dishonesty. Then the very next CEO also resigned - but not over one of his affairs with a direct report – for cheating on a government contract.

Within weeks of being promoted to a Director of the company my wife started her VLTA. On the very next business trip to Asia, in fact.

And they all knew of it in her area the whole time.

Adultery and general dishonesty are opposite sides of the same coin. I do not agree affairs are an aberration with these people. Adultery is simply a part of who they are, who they have always been and who they will always be.

My spouse visited a hooker. I can't say the pain is worse, it's the same for all BS's. But the cover-up I believe is easier for the WS. Prostitutes are in every town, available at any time. They are easier to hide, quicker, and don't require an affair. I believe earning trust back for one thats been with a hooker is more difficult, if not impossible. Only because there "could" have been or might continue to be multiple hookers. You just never know.

Lady

Using a prostitute is just that – using.

There is something scary in that kind of adultery. It’s as engulfing an entitlement as one can find in anything.

An example is active on this very forum: the governor’s dishonesty reminds me of what I am reading on Cruisegonbad’s thread. She used a gigolo and then hid it for eight years – lying and manipulating her husband into staying married at arms length, into adopting children, tricked into living her lie, and kept off balance with capricious and varying emotional distance. The hidden and invisible barriers she used to maintain her sordid secrets must have had him thinking he was insane at times. His marriage was as much of a fantasy as any adulterous affair found on this website. And she didn’t even do all this for the love of an OM.

No wonder she and her H can’t get pass this. Neither yet face the sheer magnitude of it. Even her user name blames the cruise instead of her near decade of conscious and intentional choices.

What a stake through her husband's heart. And she didn’t even do it for love.

I wonder if the governors’ wife will get past this same thing. I bet it’s the tip of an iceberg with this guy too.

And he didn't even do it for what might pass as love.