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#341983 10/16/02 05:32 PM
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I need prayer, i am doing all that i can to stand for my marriage, but i am wearing thin. My spouse has done the best possible at distancing from me and from our friends. I feel we are on the verge of a break through but past hurts and junk stand in the way... pray for breakthrough and much needed strenght and perservance.

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Jonah,

Dear Lord,
I pray for jonah today that you will make a way where there seems there is no way. Clear out all the refuse of the past and make a clear path for both of them to walk. Give him strength and help him perservere through his situation. I pray for a breakthrough that he can clearly see and is evident to BOTH of them. I pray this in Jesus Name. Amen.

Let us know how you are doing.

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Amen!

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How are you doing?

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You know loyal warrior, i was seriously on the verge of going home and telling my spouse that I quit, i don't want to go through it anymore. At every attempt to meet her needs, to grow closer to her she avoids and pulls away and yeah it's frustrating, but i try to go back to the word and get strength. God is good all the time, even when i am struggling he comforts me and i have to believe that he has something in the works i just have to be patient, which is difficult. Thanks for your concern and prayer, please continue to pray for my marriage being restored, my spouse returning and for wisdom, strength and a breakthrough.

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jonah,

Anytime you feel like you're going to do something drastic, give us a hollar over here on this forum. I tell ya LW here is my hero. I think he can tell you that patients pays off. You'll just have to recognize the small victories when they come.

I've noticed that ole LW is becoming quite a Prayer Warrior too. We'll can get cajunky to add you to the prayer list for Wed. if you're not and want to be. Of course, you're more than welcome to pray with us. I know I've seen some changes in my W since the additional prayers started.

God put your M together, give it to him to fix and you work on you. Do all you're venting and LBing here, not in front of your W. Make sure you are meeting the ENs of your W (not the ones you think she has) And by all means keep finding ways of making deposits in your LB account with her, no matter how small.

Be blessed.

Later'z.

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Jonah,

I will continue to pray for a breakthrough in
the restoration of your marriage. Something that has helped me is praying the prayers that are written out in Stormie Omartians "The Power of a Praying Husband Prayer Pack". When I am feeling discouraged I pray those prayers for my W and feel a release in my spirit. It seems to help...

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Jonah,

S&C is right on with his advice. Patience is not a strength of mine either. When all this started with my W and I, even she mentioned it to me. We are here for you...

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thanks.. for the advice and please do pray. The problem is my wife does not want me to meet those en, but i still continue to try, she won't let me in, or open up so it's really just me trying to assure her that i love her and want to be will her, which she says puts pressure on her and she doesn't want to hear. so i admit it is hard a times to do some of the things i need to do for her especially when she doesn't offer thanks or show any sign of gratitude.

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jonah,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The problem is my wife does not want me to meet those en</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Of course she doesn't want you to meet those ENs. While she's in the fog she's looking for a reason to distance herself. My W told me that if I never changed it would have been so easy for her to leave. After a while of meeting her ENs, she told me that if she left now she would look like the bad guy to her freinds and family. She doesn't feel like you're a safe person to get close to again, YET! Just find real little things to do for her. Dry dishes, help fold laundry, get something fixed around the house she's wanted fixed. Anything.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">she won't let me in, or open up</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">She will when she feels it's safe.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">so it's really just me trying to assure her that i love her and want to be will her, which she says puts pressure on her and she doesn't want to hear. so i admit it is hard a times to do some of the things i need to do for her especially when she doesn't offer thanks or show any sign of gratitude.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Just back off a little. Do the little things quietly. Hold off on telling her you love her so much and just tell her she's beautiful. Then slide in an "I love you". But I did make sure I told my W I love youat least once a day. ANd no youwon't get any thanks or signs of graditude for a while. But would you rather not get any thanks for a while and save your M or would you want her to thank you and still be distant from you. Your thanks will be when she gets closer to you. Remember she's in a fog with nothing to guide her. Your small actions will be like a light house for her to find her way back.

Hang in there. You'll have tough days, we all have. And we will continue to have them for a while. You're doing fine.

Until later.

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Jonah,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">she says puts pressure on her and she doesn't want to hear </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">This is what my wife said to me too about 3 mths ago. Every situation is different, but here is what I did.
I stopped saying I love you to her. I stopped writing Love when I signed my name. I spaced out the times when I tried to meet her EN's. I think I did 1 or 2 a week. I gave her space. Was it scary? You bet.. Pressure is not what you want her to feel right now. My W needed space..easy to say..but hard for me to do. I now once and a while put L. when I sign a note I write her.
If I pressured her she would of bolted! She knows you love her! I looked at it as giving her a gift!
The gift of space. That does not mean giving up, just easing off for now. Scary to do I KNOW! It still scares me. I like to fix things and it bugs me that I can't fix her. SO I am working on fixing myself, still doing some meeting of her EN's and praying for her. Practical things to like washing the dishes for her!, (she came up to me and put her hand on my forehead to see if I had a fever HA! because washing the dishes was something I DID NOT DO BEFORE). S. Harley told me that CONSISTENCY over time is more important than QUANTITY. Demonstrating that you are making changes that last! in the areas that are important to her! This is just some of the stuff I've learned through this. I will continue to pray for you and your W.

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I'm back. In alittle better shape than last time I was here, but still bewildered about how i bring my wife out of shutdown mode. I love her and want to make our marriage work, recognize my faults, admit to them and will do what is needed to remedy them, but tell me, should i take the same attitude she has... aloof, distant, not present. It is amazing how the person who supposely loves you can be so far off. It hurts that she acts the way she does and it hurts me to consider acting the way she acts towards me, but is it necessary?

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Jonah,

I am glad that you are a little better today!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> should i take the same attitude she has... aloof, distant, not present. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No, Just follow Steadfast & Committed advice. Back off a little. I know its bewildering! I don't have all the answers but I am praying for you.
Lord, please give Jonah patience and perseverence with his wife. Bring ideas to his mind of things he can do that will meet his wifes most important emotional needs. Show him when to back off and when to press forward. Give him indicators along the way that he is getting through. Give him peace in his heart. In Jesus name, Amen.

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You know i just need to know that GOD is standing with me, you know a breakthrough, sometimes it feels that I am standing all by myself, feeling like me against the army and I am too weak to lift my shield and too tired to lift my sword... it's wearing me down and frustrating me.

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Jonah,

How long have you been wageing this battle? What can I do to help? Please post back ASAP.

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this specfic battle has not been going on long, maybe 2 months, but the struggles in our marriage have been numerous. We were divorced and remarried, separated and then reunited.

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Jonah,

I feel you need this right now. Dear Lord Jesus,
Jonah is hurting and needs to see a breakthrough.
Please give him one today. Make it so clear and plain that you are standing with him, that you know what he needs, even before he asks. I pray that you touch his W's heart tonight and give him an indicator that what he is doing is getting through. In Jesus name, Amen.

I will check back later tonight to see how you are doing...

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I feel bad loyal, knowing that you have been standing for awhile, it is my impatience i know. If there is anything i can say or do for you, believe me it would be done. I'm sorry, I know there are others who have been dealing with this for a longer period of time, forgive me.

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jonah,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You know i just need to know that GOD is standing with me, you know a breakthrough, sometimes it feels that I am standing all by myself, feeling like me against the army and I am too weak to lift my shield and too tired to lift my sword... it's wearing me down and frustrating me.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I know exactly how you feel. As a matter of fact, I'm feeling a lot like that right now myself. Sometimes that's exactly right where God wants us to be. Because once we are so tired and so worn that we don't feel like we can fight the battle, that's the only time we can really give it up to Him to fight for us. He really wants to do that you know. It's tough for me because I'm a fixer. I also think that's why he led you here to this forum. I have about ten people that pray specifically for me and my M. Get the people youtrust to pray for you. I call them when I'm feeling down or when I think something is wrong with the way my W is acting. But the best times are when I just call on my Father and tell him that I feel like I'm at the end. He has never failed me.

Believe me God knows about one way love and He IS working. He worked on me first, before he started working on my W. She had to see changes she thought were going to be permanent. Consistancy will bring it's rewards.

Trust Him when you're feeling weak. Give it up to Him and allow yourself to get some rest.

You're in my prayers.

S&C

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Jonah,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> We were divorced and remarried, separated and then reunited. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Do you mean that your marriage to this particular woman went through all these changes?

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yeah, the same women. the wife of my youth. there is alot of baggage on both sides but i still love my wife and want to be with her.

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Jonah,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I feel bad loyal, knowing that you have been standing for awhile, it is my impatience i know. If there is anything i can say or do for you, believe me it would be done. I'm sorry, I know there are others who have been dealing with this for a longer period of time, forgive me. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Please don't feel bad. You feel like you feel!
You have my forgiveness, but there is no need to ask...I do not judge you...I care about you.
We are all going through marriage hell right now and we all get weary. Be honest with your feelings!
God knows how bad you feel. You are trying and staying in the battle! I give you credit for that.
The Lord has brought us together to lift one another up. When one is strong the other may be weak and vise versa. The Lord takes us right where we are at!

Lord, Please give Jonah courage right now and lift his spirit!

My thanks to you also S&C, we need to support Jonah through this!

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No kidding. I don't know where I'd be w/o my prayer warriors.

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S&C,

I did not mean to imply that you were not supporting Jonah through this!!!!I know you are.

Jonah, We are standing with you!!!!

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LW,

I didn't even think you had suggested that. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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Hey guys Im in the same place...wife says she does not love me...wants her space...does not want me to meet her emotional needs...shes says im either suffocating her or ignoring her! Ok this is what I found in scripture the other day, Job 36:16 "He is wooing you from the jaws of distress to a spacious place free from restriction," I am praying that God would find me in a "pocket" that is neither suffocating or ignoring her, isnt that cool that God reaffirms that! Also pray for a heart of compassion, mercy and grace. Hide yourself in the "shadow of his wing" pray for wisdom and discernment, pray for third party intervention through your wifes friends..., Luke 18:1, Ephesians 3:20, Psalms 46:1 God has given you a spirit of power, love and a sound-mind not a spirit of fear! Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer I Corinth 13:7...Be gentle and strong...

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Hey Jonah I've been married to the wife of my youth for 18 years now as well...I havent gone through what you described but I'm now going on 2 months as well...I'm also impatient and I feel like its been 2 years!...but I shouldn't complain...I know guys who have been walking this "valley" alot longer than I have...

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Hey Proverbs,

I think you thing you need to do is to realize that this isn't something that will get fixed and forgotten in a few weeks. Three weeks from now will be the 1 year mark of my D-Day and 5 weeks from now will be our 19th annaversary. I think LW has been at it longer thatn I.

So I think you need to really ask yourself some questions. Did you really mean what you said in your wedding vows? Do you really want to save the M? What are you willing to endure to save the M? I ask this because your W will probably do and say some very hurtful things. You can't take it personally. She's in a fog (for me that's another way of saying she's being deceived by the enemy). Your battle isn't with her. The battle is God's if you let it. Your battle is to change yourself to be the Godly man you are supposed to be. That's what Plan A is. Makeyourself into the person that gives her a reason to love you.

You see (IMO) your W gets angry when you meet an En of her's. That's because she see's you not as the person she believes you to be right now, but a better/different person. She has this fantasy with this guy she feels will meets those needs you weren't or aren't meeting. When you meet those needs she now has a harder choice to make reagrding leaving. When she sees the changes you are in "the process of making" she isn't going to trust them. Because history has proven to her that it can't be real. Consistancy is the key for you. Also, OM has les to lose than you do. He's not likely to expend as much time or energy to keep a the relationship w/ her.

She's not going to think through many, if any, of the choices she wants to make. She's not going to listen to much you have to say because you're "biased". She's going to think your recommendations are out of your self serving desires.

If you have an idea of what her En's are then start meeting them. If you do the dishes for her just once (if you don't do them already) how is she going to stop you. It might be more pleasent (convevient) for her to move back up to the bedroom and you move down to the basement. There's a lot of real tiny but noticable things you can do for her.

It's a long and sometimes slow road. But if you just look at LW's story you'll see that progress can be made. My W's EA has been going on for more than two years. I deceided to remain steadfast in the face of the enemy and I made a commitment to myself and my W that I wouldn't give up. I believe it will be worth the cost.

My prayers go out to you and your family. Bless you all.

S&C

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Proverbs,
sorry you are going through this also, you are in the right place, amongst friends fellow believer, welcome, we will get through this together. Hebrews 3:13- But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called Today, so that none of you may be hardened by sin's deceitfulness.
The problem with her friends is that they are going through similar or have been through similar situations and encouragement is not the vibe I get from them. I may be wrong and have asked GOD to reveal it to me though, but our friends she distances herself from and reverts back to the old friends, the ones who have gone through separation as a source of support and encouragement. It is amazing, that one of the friends we do not hear from until there is a problem and when that problem surfaces it's a constant source of communication.

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Hey did you guys see this post? Very good!

Describes the way I feel and the way I've hope I've been handling my sitch.

S&C

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Hey S&C, which post is that you are referring to?

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Sorry 'bout that <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

I forgot to put the link in (brain f@rt). Here it is.

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=37;t=020766

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Jonah,

How are you doing? Anything you want specific prayer about?

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LW,
You I was really struggling earlier today, but I had a brother who recognized it and he prayed for me and encouraged me. I started so high this yesterday, last night and this morning then fall into that trap. My wife and I actually had a decent conversation last night, we didn't talk about our situation or anything just talked which made me want to talk more and draw closer, until she shut that down. I guess just for friendships, there are some friendships that I question, that seem to resurface in times of trouble, for endurance and for again a breakthrough that my wife will see. We are separated but in the same house which makes things harder... thanks. You keep on though, you are experiencing that breakthough and we are with you.

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Help fellas, In as much as I would love meet my wife's EN, how do I go about getting my EN needs addressed? She is unwilling to basically hear them, so the luxury I just realized was a part of marriage I can't take advantage of. In the past I would have sought out another women to try to fulfill them, but I am wiser now.. Thanks GOD and haven't and will not journey down that path. I write and I guess she reads, but does not respond, so what is a guy to do?

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Jonah,

It must be hard being separated but living in the same house. I'm sorry.

Lord,
I continue to lift up jonah to you. I pray that you would bring friends into his life that will be a support for him, that lift him up and provide wise counsel. I pray for endurance to help him persevere in this difficult situation. I pray that his wife will notice the changes he is making and give him ideas of things he can do that mean the most to his wife. That touches her heart and softens it. Rekindle their feelings of love for each other. I pray for a positive breakthrough in their relationship. Wrap your arms around them both and let them feel your love and presence right now. Show us Lord how to pray for them. In Jesus Name, Amen.

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Jonah,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Help fellas, In as much as I would love meet my wife's EN, how do I go about getting my EN needs addressed? She is unwilling to basically hear them, so the luxury I just realized was a part of marriage I can't take advantage of. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I have had some of the same questions. My EN's are not being met by my W and I am trying to meet all of hers. Doesn't feel fair, does it?

My wife is in withdrawl, she is numb and has no desire to try and meet my EN's. I have to understand that and accept it for now. I have to be the giver right now and try to meet what needs she will let me. I know its hard! It felt so weird when I started. BUT its my understanding that its the only way back to intimacy for us both. It helped me to think of this as a gift.
I was always so concerned WITH MY NEEDS GETTING MET! Thats my TAKER! And did not CARE HOW SHE FELT! Selfish...

I know it hurts, its not fair, and you wonder how you can exist, BUT I am telling you YOU CAN.
I hug my kids, do aroebics, vent on this site, pray, I cry (Jesus wept and if he was man enough to do it, so am I) it gives me a release.

We can do this together and no matter how this turns out for us. We will have done all we could to save our marriage, I am committed and I feel you are too. I feel God is pleased with our efforts. God bless you Jonah

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jonah,

I know it feels real bad. This is all I can offer to you right now. I think God gave me the time my W wouldn't meet my ENs to work on myself. I really needed to do that. I concentrated on me and doing the things that improved me. God is all to familiar with one sided love. Just think about all the people that reject him that he loved so much he died for. He really does know of your pain. He will comfort you as you need it. But don't dwell on it. That's exactly what the enemy wants. He wants your Taker to start demanding things he knows you won't get. So you will take your eyes off the bigger picture of saving your M. Your W's not the enemy, she's your best friend and she's lost inthe fog. You may be her only guide out. You need to stay strong. If God's letting you go through this, he knows you'll make it and become better.

May God's hand of Peace be on you right now.

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AMen S&C!

I have sung this song..

The pain some people bear, no one would believe
The hurt thats sometimes there, makes it hard to see.
That in the darkest hour, there is still a way,
Listen to these simple words I say.

Jesus knows your hurt
Jesus feels your pain
Jesus knows just how you feel
cause' He's felt just the same
Jesus knows your need, better than you do
Just hold on to Jesus, He's holding on to you.

A simple son by Dallas Holm, but so true.
Jesus wrap your arms around my brother!! Amen

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I meant to say this song written by Dallas Holm

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Jonah,

How are you doing?

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Hey Loyal,
I am struggling still here. The anger is unreal, and i know it not my wife, but the enemy. I am trying to love from a distance which is hard as you know. I've struggled with doing things that i said i would do and have really made an effort to do those things and have been successfully, and i don't expect praise for them, i don't expect grief for them either, which is what i get. It has turned into a power struggle and she holds the keys. She got a letter from the friend in question, who is getting marriage and the envelope is addressed to my kids, and ms....thought it was tacky, wanted address it with her, but i am not the one to make her see that this friendship is not healthy. Why even my kids are questioning it, i try to cast it down to them and tell them that she is really a good friend of there mother's and she really cares for her, but i can see it is wearing thin with them, especially in the light of the envelope. I don't know what i want you to pray for, don't really know what to ask for. I am committing to going to New Warrior in a couple weeks to deal with some emotional issues that i have to deal with.. thanks for your concern. how are things going for you and your wife, you are still in my prayers and i know GOD is using the bad to work for the good in your situation.. be in peace.

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What is the Wednesday prayer thing that you are mentioning in here? K

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jonah,

God put you and your W on my heart at church yesterday during our worship. Prayed for you through the whole thing almost.

I know meeting the EN's and getting grief for it is a real hard thing to recieve. But I gotta tell you I've been there and it does get better. Your W's not used to getting them met and now there's been a drastic change that she's not sure whether or not it's just a temperary thing ust to get her to warm up to you again or not. Consistancy is the key. I think you're seeing the result in LW's posts. The enemy is feeding her with the thoughts she's getting. You need to show her that what she does won't make you waver from your commitment to the changes you're making in yourself. That you're serious about working on your part. That's Plan A. You make yourself a better husband no matter what. She'll see it and start to rethink her perception of you. When she does that, she'll be more open and receptive to you meeting her EN. Then she'll see that it's safe for her to open up to you and start to mee you're ENs.

It's a long road jonah. You need to pace yourself. Release it and give it to God. He's the fixer of marriages.

Keep us posted. Laterz'

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">What is the Wednesday prayer thing that you are mentioning in here?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Every Wednesday a bunch of us fast and pray for marriages and other requests here on the forum. It was started by cajunky. cajunky posts the week's prayer from "The Power of a Praying Husband" and lists those who have asked for prayer as well as answered prayer. Lupolady posts the week's prayer from "The Power of a Praying Wife" also. You'll usually see it at the beginning of the week.

BTW - since you're first post you've been on my prayer list. Let us know how you're doing too ok?

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Jonah,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I am committing to going to New Warrior in a couple weeks to deal with some emotional issues that i have to deal with.. thanks for your concern. how are things going for you and your wife, you are still in my prayers and i know GOD is using the bad to work for the good in your situation.. be in peace. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'm going to pray for your W's anger to diminish
and that you will see a breakthrough. I know its hard when you don't see any outside progress. BUT you can't see whats going on in your W mind or spirit. Just the behavior right now. S&C is right on with his last post to you. She needs to believe that your not just trying to manipulate her. I know this PLAN A is REALLY HARD STUFF TO DO. But the best chance that our marriages will survive this hell that were are going through is in OUR HANDS, Jonah

I'm praying for you buddy, hang in there!

PS. just put an update on my thread in Emotional Needs Forum. To answer your question, things are progressing but very very slowly. thx for asking and your continued prayers...

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I loved the link that you provided S & C. Sometimes that is all we have to offer when our spouse will not acknowledge us as someone they once cared deeply about. Besides this is exactly how I want to be treated and you know the saying in the bible. Treat people as you want to be treated.

I encourage anyone who wants to join our prayer group for our marriages to come let me know on the thread and we will add your name and pray for your marriage weekly and we want you to pray with and for us weekly too.

Love in Christ
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Knock knock,

jonah..... you home? Let us know how you're doing?

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Jonah,

Are you OK? I also want to know how you are doing?

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I'm still here, fellas hope you continue to lift my marriage up in prayer. Things are going the same, still distant, have been praying though and praying the prayers of Stormie again. She is going out of town with the kids this weekend to see my her family so I'm not sure what that is about. Still hoping for a breakthrough we can both hold on to and for communication to flow better.

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Good to hear from you. I will keep praying!

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Are you fellas still here with me, wanted to talk to you all.

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Yep. Still hang'n around. What's up?

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Just wondering, still here. Trying my best to find some joy in this trial. Feeling powerless and as if there is nothing I can do about our situation and not really knowing if that's right. I know when i surrender to GOD he is in control and that involves me giving it completely to him, I just feeling like gardner waiting for the grass to grow. Please continue to pray for us and for positive breakthrough.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Trying my best to find some joy in this trial.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yep, I know, there are times that you wish it were all over already. The only joy I feel I've seen in this situation are the small victories I find throught this journey and knowing that my God has a wonderful plan for me ahead. I will make some woman happy to be married to me. I hope it will be Mrs. S&C.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Feeling powerless and as if there is nothing I can do about our situation
and not really knowing if that's right. I know when i surrender to GOD he is in control and that involves me giving it completely to him, I just feeling like gardner waiting for the grass to grow.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The path we both take is a long one and the enemy is there to try to get us to stumble at every turn. But I truely find at the times I am at my weakest, is the times that God has been most powerful and most active. The things God as asked me to do is to work on myself so when the time comes, I would be ready. He prefers it when we are helpless. For me, sometimes it was the only way things went forward.

Joy came when I knew I was being obedient to God's will. As I obeyed, He would work miracles and I get to see them unfold in front of my eyes.

I have faith in you my friend. God is making a mighty man in you. You will be victorious. My prayers are with you both everyday.

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Jonah,

Sorry it took me so long to get back. I have not left you and pray for you. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Please continue to pray for us and for positive breakthrough. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I know what it feels like to look for any indicator that things are progressing in the way you want them to go. Did you go to NEW WARRIOR? What was the outcome?
I want you to know that God has laid you on my heart. I will be here for you as long as it takes.

It takes courage my friend. I believe you have what it takes to make it through this. I feel the Lords presence as I type these words.

Dear Lord, Make a way where there seems to be no way in Jonahs marriage. Speak to his W's heart and breakthrough the barriers that are there. Give Jonah an indicator that you are working and that he is doing all the right things. Give him peace and joy in his heart. Engulf the children and this couple in Your love. Breakdown the barriers that keep this marriage from going to the next step of victory. In Jesus Mighty Name,
Amen.

I am with you, I wish your heart peace tonight. LW

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Are you fellas just with me? God is good all the time. Please continue to pray for breakthrough.

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Hey Jonah,

I'm hanging around. Just got to work. How's things going?

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Jonah,

I'm here too. Whats happening? LW

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Well guys, through some unexpected problems I was priviledged to spend sometime with my wife. I enjoyed it the conversation was better. So I'm praising GOD for that, just hoping that it will continue. Seems easier I was trying so hard but now things are coming naturally, meaning the things I do for you and to help her, she still is resistant at times to show appreciate though. I am still holding on for a breakthrough that both of us will know is from GOD. I was awoken this morning with a prayer rushing from my mouth "GOD renew the spring of our love." I've been trying to figure it out, but it wasn't me for sure, had to be the Holy Spirit in me. Thanks guys

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Jonah,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> "GOD renew the spring of our love." </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I really like this! I'm glad you have had some positive things happening.

Someone else out here, "Takola" prayed "Lord, let me learn quickly what I am suppose to in this situation". I think this is good because it takes the focus off our spouse and on to us.

I will be praying that "God will renew the spring of your love" I wish you both a peaceful weekend! LW

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Jonah,

PS. It seems to me that you are growing stronger! Way to go! LW

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">through some unexpected problems I was priviledged to spend sometime with my wife.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Just goes to show not all problems are bad.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Seems easier I was trying so hard but now things are coming naturally, meaning the things I do for you and to help her</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That just means that they are becoming habits (good habits). If these habits continue sh ewill start to see consistancy. That will begin to convince her that you are becoming safe for her.

[QUOTE}she still is resistant at times to show appreciate though.[/QUOTE]

Sounds par for the course. But the increased conversation is progress.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I am still holding on for a breakthrough that both of us will know is from GOD.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You will see some breakthroughs. But remember, don't forget that those breakthroughs won't come without the little victories (like increased conversation).

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I was awoken this morning with a prayer rushing from my mouth "GOD renew the spring of our love." I've been trying to figure it out, but it wasn't me for sure, had to be the Holy Spirit in me.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That is one of those little gems to hold onto. God gave me a gem in the form of unbelievable peace that lasted for three days (back in March). I had no anxiety, wasn't freaking out about my W going to work with OM. Just peace. I thought He was telling me that no matter how things turned out, He could heal me of any pain or hurt I went through. And noth'n says that praying in the spirit can't be in English.

I have a post I will send as soon as I get time. Hopefully it will be of great encouragement to you.

Bless you.

S&C

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Jonah,

Went forward for prayer in my church this morning. Asked the pastor to pray for you.
I hope this weekend went well. LW

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Thanks Loyal,
we actually did have a good day Sunday, heard an inspiring message at church Sunday morning, then got served with D papers Monday night. I'm trying to hold it together, first I was upset, then a calm was there, I know it was the Lord. I still and believing for restoration and for a god-filled marriage with my wife ellen. Just following his guidance....if you will continue to pray.

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Jonah,

Still here. Just checking in. How are you doing?
I will continue to pray. LW

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Lw, thanks for the concern,I'm just trying to hold on. Each day as you know is a struggle, with some good and some bad. I've been asking God to bring his presence into our marriage and reveal his power and love, and am slowly seeing signs, just ask you to continue to pray and stand in faith with me for our marriage to be restored.

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Jonah,

Just checking in! You OK? LW

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Sorry fellas I haven't been in in awhile, just really trying to press in and then it got busy at work. How are u LW and Steadfast? My situation has not changed, as I stated earlier my wife filed and I am trying to hold up and let GOD do in me what needs to be done to make our marriage work... Wife is semi distant not as much as before but not where I'd like her to be. Please pray.

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Well howdy stranger,

Been wondering where ya been keeping yourself.

Good to hear your W isn't as distant. Things don't ever seem to move as fast as we'd like them to. But then again we look back and see how long the rollercoaster ride has gone on and we are amazed.

I celebrated my 1 year d-day Nov. 17th (celebrated the fact that we were still married). I also celebrated my 19th Anniversary on the 26th. We went out to a nice restaurant and strolled around the hotel grounds (watched some dolphin watching us). We had a nice time. But I still have my bad days.

Of course never stop praying for you and the rest here.

Will talk to ya later.

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Hey Jonah!

Good to hear from you! I am praying for you.

If you want to see how I'm doing see my "LW- Practicing MB Principles" thread. Still counseling with S. Harley. Its going slow for me also! LW

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Yeah right about now i need to really talk..i am struggling.

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Hey jonah,

What's up?

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Jonah,

Just checked in. Talk away, I'm listening...LW

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can we talk from my email address **edit**

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Jonah,

Do you mean email back and forth and not post here? I think thats what you mean? Right? LW

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Jonah,

I emailed you. LW

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Jonah,

I emailed you again from an address that we can talk on. LW

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Hello Everyone,
I have read through this post and want you all to know I will be praying for all of you. I have been praying for my marriage to be restored for over two years. There are a few other sites on the web that have been encouraging for me. Send me an email if you want the addy. Please continue to believe God will restore your marriage. God can do anything, nothing is too hard for Him. He has done this for others and He will do it for us. I believe we must be close to our precious God and come to a point in our life where we want God more than we want our marriage. Then I feel my marriage will be restored. I am growing closer to Him daily.

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Jonah,

Good talking with you! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> If you have any specific prayer requests please post them here.
So all the "warriors" can join you in prayer.
thx LW

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